Hyd top link CK-35

[gary8665]

I put the Kioti single HYD remote kit on my CK 35 today, its comes with everything and is very simple to install, took only about 1 1/2 hours.

Now I will need to get a hydraulic top link. Can anyone recommend the best one to get and the best place to get one from?

Thanks

 

[VictorW]

Here's a place to start your hunt. Tractor Hydraulic toplinks, Top-N-Tilt, Side link cylinders Some members are using their cylinders while others have used something different. You'll also find some links/advertisements on the TBN site for top link cyllinders. Which is best? You'll get varied opinions just like which truck is best.

 

[Mousefield]

I put the Kioti single HYD remote kit on my CK 35 today, its comes with everything and is very simple to install, took only about 1 1/2 hours.

Now I will need to get a hydraulic top link. Can anyone recommend the best one to get and the best place to get one from?

Thanks

Can you post some pics of what you did?

 

[mcd176]

Yes pictures please, we all like to look at pictures

 

[gary8665]

I saved this tread and pictures from quite awhile ago: copy and paste.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/100883-installing-ck30hst-remote-kit-pics.html

Actually pics were very helpful, but it certainly did not take 4 hrs like he stated.
All you have to do is order the kit, it comes with every part you need and they all fit perfectly.
Only parts you need to remove from tractor to get full access is the grey plastic cover that has the 3 point raise and lower lever coming thru it, to the right of seat.

Next remove the seat by simply taking out the bolts that are on the orange plate that mounts the seat to tractor.

Then you have access to all you need to do.

With the pictures on the link above, its really easy. I actually have had the kit for over a year, it came with no instructions. The tread above said 4 1/2 hrs and I was a bit intimidated by that, but once I started, and with help of the pictures it was incredibly easy. It took me 1 1/2 hours cause I was cautious, but I could easily now do it again in 30 minutes or less.

A 3/8 socket set, one pair of snap ring pliers and 2 large Cresent (1 3/16" +- I think) wrenchs are all the tools I used. Some teflon thread sealant for the remote connector to tighten it to bracket at rear of tractor.

When done, I backed it up to a big heavy 18 ft offset disk and connected the hyd lines, it picked up and lowered the disc just as good my big tractor does. (no it won't pull it)

 

[BJN644]

It is a fairly easy job, my kit came with instructions and I think they made it more confusing, if I remember it said to remove a rear tire, definitely don't have to do that. I used that same link you posted, a big help, thanks to the OP.

 

[mrutkaus]

Gary, I resemble that remark!!! I put those pictures in a while ago, I just work slowly!!! It was the first time I'd ever done anything hydraulic and I wanted to savor it. I cleaned everything many times, etc.

BTW, I wish I would have examined the remote valve more closely; when i got it new from a respected dealer, it had NONE of the detent parts in it. However it DID detent fairly well for six months or so even without those parts.

Mike

 

[gary8665]

Sorry Mike, no diregard intended. Actually when the install went so fast I really thought I had done something wrong, but nothing leaked and it worked, so I was pleased.

Without your pictures I would still be looking at a box full of parts wondering if I really wanted to tackle the install.

My detent works well, but I am not sure why I need it?

Gary

 

[gary8665]

It is a fairly easy job, my kit came with instructions and I think they made it more confusing, if I remember it said to remove a rear tire, definitely don't have to do that. I used that same link you posted, a big help, thanks to the OP.

I also can't think of any possible reason to remove the back tire. Everything you need is accessed by removing the seat.

 

[picker77]

Now I will need to get a hydraulic top link. Can anyone recommend the best one to get and the best place to get one from?
Thanks

Can't speak to "best", but I can speak to responsiveness and availability. I just ordered mine from AG_3-Point ? AGRISTORE USA. I tried to call CCM but couldn't get anybody to answer the phone, and they also ignored my email. Finally gave up and bought from Agristore. A few dollars more, but not only was what I wanted in stock (I wanted one with DPOCV), they emailed me a UPS tracking number for my shipment within one hour after I ordered it Friday. It's supposed to be delivered Wednesday. They also sell a slick 36" top link hose kit, which I also bought. There have two lengths available in Cat 1, I got the longer one. So I don't know about CCM, but Agristore's responsiveness and customer service so far has been outstanding. An extra ten bucks or so, but zero aggravation. Zero aggravation wins every time with me!

 

[sodamo]

Can't speak to "best", but I can speak to responsiveness and availability. I just ordered mine from AG_3-Point ? AGRISTORE USA. I tried to call CCM but couldn't get anybody to answer the phone, and they also ignored my email. Finally gave up and bought from Agristore. A few dollars more, but not only was what I wanted in stock (I wanted one with DPOCV), they emailed me a UPS tracking number for my shipment within one hour after I ordered it Friday. It's supposed to be delivered Wednesday. They also sell a slick 18" top link hose kit, which I also bought. There have two lengths available in Cat 1, I got the longer one. So I don't know about CCM, but Agristore's responsiveness and customer service so far has been outstanding. An extra ten bucks or so, but zero aggravation. Zero aggravation wins every time with me!

Anyone know which one to get for CK30?

 

[picker77]

Anyone know which one to get for CK30?

Just measure your factory top link from ball center to ball center in both retracted and extended conditions. Their choices are approximately 18-26" or 21-32" Pick the one that's closest. I got the longer one of the two they sell, because I wanted the extra length in case I want to use an EZ-hitch clone I have lying around--which adds around 4" to the lower arms. The extra 2-3/4" retracted length will still work ok with my existing implements and hitch, and I gain almost 6" extended, where I might need it. I also happen to believe the less rod there is sticking out of the cylinder under normal use, the stiffer the top link will be (less chance of bending the rod), but that's a personal opinion.

BTW, Agristore's hose kit is 36", not 18" as I mistakenly said earlier. Sorry.

 

[VictorW]

Thanks for posting the agristore link. A few extra bucks is worth fast service, 4 year warranty, and shipping is included over $50. The cyl looks very similar to ccm and includes npt adapters. To bad they don't have tilt cylinders. I only suggested ccm as a place to start. I didn't know people were having problems.

 

[sodamo]

Just measure your factory top link from ball center to ball center in both retracted and extended conditions. Their choices are approximately 18-26" or 21-32" Pick the one that's closest. I got the longer one of the two they sell, because I wanted the extra length in case I want to use an EZ-hitch clone I have lying around--which adds around 4" to the lower arms. The extra 2-3/4" retracted length will still work ok with my existing implements and hitch, and I gain almost 6" extended, where I might need it. I also happen to believe the less rod there is sticking out of the cylinder under normal use, the stiffer the top link will be (less chance of bending the rod), but that's a personal opinion.

BTW, Agristore's hose kit is 36", not 18" as I mistakenly said earlier. Sorry.

Thanks, I decided to go for the longer one as it was a closer match to my factory toplink, also the hoses.
Very interesting and much appreciated, they only charged me $15 for shipping. Shopping online is always a challenge due to shipping. Rarely does FREE SHIPPING include Hawaii and I don't recalled ever getting any reduction.
I normally cringe when UPS is the carrier of choice, as it usually means $$$.
My son works for UPS, but I don't think I should be a major contributor to his pay

Now, need a good source for a tilt cylinder....

 

[picker77]

Very interesting and much appreciated, they only charged me $15 for shipping. Shopping online is always a challenge due to shipping. Rarely does FREE SHIPPING include Hawaii and I don't recalled ever getting any reduction.
I normally cringe when UPS is the carrier of choice, as it usually means $$$.
My son works for UPS, but I don't think I should be a major contributor to his pay

Now, need a good source for a tilt cylinder....

I feel your pain, we moved here from Hawaii in '94. Lived in Hawaii for 8 years total (Pearl City, Ewa Beach, and Kailua) during and after my Navy career, visited the big island many times. Beautiful place, especially up in the highlands where all the ranching goes on. Shipping costs were a big factor in ANY purchase.

FWIW, I ordered this one from Surplus Center to use for tilt: https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-7258-6&catname=hydraulic
Just received it yesterday, so can't say yet how it's going to work, 'cause I still have some mods to do on it--I intend to cut the clevis off the lower end of the OEM non-adjustable link and weld it on this one. Hope to get that done in the next few days, will post photos if it all comes together. Wanted a 1.5" cyl for tilt instead of a 2" because of tight clearances at the upper ball end when my lift arms are all the way up. I think this one will fit, will know soon.
Shaka, Brah!

 

[sodamo]

I feel your pain, we moved here from Hawaii in '94. Lived in Hawaii for 8 years total (Pearl City, Ewa Beach, and Kailua) during and after my Navy career, visited the big island many times. Beautiful place, especially up in the highlands where all the ranching goes on. Shipping costs were a big factor in ANY purchase.

FWIW, I ordered this one from Surplus Center to use for tilt: https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-7258-6&catname=hydraulic
Just received it yesterday, so can't say yet how it's going to work, 'cause I still have some mods to do on it--I intend to cut the clevis off the lower end of the OEM non-adjustable link and weld it on this one. Hope to get that done in the next few days, will post photos if it all comes together. Wanted a 1.5" cyl for tilt instead of a 2" because of tight clearances at the upper ball end when my lift arms are all the way up. I think this one will fit, will know soon.
Shaka, Brah!

I was stationed at Schofield late 77-81. Lived Ewa Beach the last 2 years. If you ever revisit BI, give a shout. We are on the Hilo side, up in Ninole.

Let us know how the tilt works.

 

[picker77]

Sodamo, finished installing the Top and Tilt yesterday. Here's a link to the finished product and photos.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/hydraulics/184076-alternate-source-hydraulic-top-links.html
Aloha, Jerry

 

[dourobob]

Can't speak to "best", but I can speak to responsiveness and availability. I just ordered mine from AG_3-Point ? AGRISTORE USA. . . . . . . Agristore's responsiveness and customer service so far has been outstanding. An extra ten bucks or so, but zero aggravation. Zero aggravation wins every time with me!

I ordered one last week - shipping to Canada was $40 - I arrived on the day scheduled and I got a follow-up calll fromBrigit at AgiStore yesterday just to make sure it had arrived and everything was satisfactory.

Great customer service - no aggravation.

I would recommend them.

Bob

 

[picker77]

Great, Durobob.. Glad to hear it, they seem to be really good folks at Agristore. Mine has been working perfectly since they sold me one. Wish they sold sidelink cylinders too, but it looks like CCM has the market monopoly on those unless you want to build your own like I ended up doing. My sidelink cylinder works great, but it does leak down slightly over time so I'm scheming how to get a double pilot operated check valve put on it like my toplink from AgriStore has. Not all that easy to do.