HST or NOT ?

[mark.r]

AMEN Mark R!!

HST is the way of the future!!!

Debate closed.

Well I don't know if I'll go that far but I think you will definitely see it in more and more applications as well as in larger heavier duty applications such as the NH TV145 Bi-directional tractor.

Does the new unit come with a horn. I know the DK35 HST does - can't figure why the DK 45 with cab doesn't. I will probably wire one in.

The DK45SE has a horn so I would assume the cabbed version will as well.

 

[4shorts]

Llloyd I was out in the shop last evening welding and I didn't enjoy the heat very much then either. I said to the customer who was there that I would like to look down the driveway and see at least four snow drifts.

I was also reading on this site that the heater isn't to good on these tractors if that's true. I'll have to wait and see I guess. No mention of a horn on the beast so I'll be doing that right away if it don't have one.

I just might look into a blower, thanks for the info. As for the specs for the cab on the new DK SEH it goes as follows:


Premium Custom Cab

- High Capacity Heat and Airconditioning

- High Visibilty glass

- Ergonomically designed operators ststion with convenient control location

- Suspension seat

- CD/radio combination with duel speakers

- Cell phone holder

- 12 volt connection with cover

- Tilt steering wheel

- Power steering

- Front and rear wipers

- Front and rear working lights

- Exterior and interior mirrors

- Three cup holders

- Telescopic three point hitch ends and adjustable lift link

- Rear aux three point hitch possition control

- Rear def lock

- One lever joy stick control

- Electronically engaged four wheel drive

- Electronically engaged PTO with automatic and manual possitions

- Oil cooler

- One set of hydraulic remotes.

 

[Lloyd_E]

Paul,

My cab has everything on your list except the cup holders, horn, CD and cell phone holder - unless the clip on one of the cab posts is considered that.

I wonder if the Cd player is quality in terms of handling the bumps and not skipping.

I need to find a high quality adhesive tape - double sided - to mount a few trays for holding the odd things; ipod, hour/job documentation book, registration/insurance papers etc.

Oh, did I mention the lack of cup holders and horn!

I picked up a folding cup holder from a yatch supply store and will be installing it tonight. It folds flat vertically when not in use. If the heater matches the AC in quality you will have no problem keeping warm. I usually turn AC on high and turn to low once I find my comfort zone.

Lloyd

 

[4shorts]

Lloyd I've never seen a Cd player that worked right in a tractor yet. I don't mean these compacts I mean like the Cat 966, 988 or even the 992's but then again they do take some shock especially where I was operating in an iron ore mine in Labrador city.

Even on my GoldWing it didn't work great so I installed an Ipod because the Wings radio had an AUX jack which is about the best feature you could put on a radio these days and I just had to plug the Ipod into it.

I would say there's not much difference in the two cabs. I hope not anyway because I really like the cab on yours. I've seen the cup holders your talking about and there pretty slick and work well too!

Question: With the KL401 loader attachment. Would that come with a quick release bucket? If it does it would be great. I plan on adapting my Artic plow to the tractor and have the power angle work on it as well. the guy at the Kioti dearler said it does and that it comes with forks as well. They didn't mention that the one I'm getting had a horn but who cares now that I know it's got three cup holders Gee's by I had a Lexus in the shop yesterday and it only had two cup holders.

 

[Charlesaf3]

you should make sure to get a skidsteer style quick attach - might well be standard. For more info do a search, you'll see hundreds of posts on the subject.

 

[4shorts]

you should make sure to get a skidsteer style quick attach - might well be standard. For more info do a search, you'll see hundreds of posts on the subject.

Hey that's exactly what he said it had. Cool and thanks for the advise again

 

[mark.r]

Question: With the KL401 loader attachment. Would that come with a quick release bucket? If it does it would be great. I plan on adapting my Artic plow to the tractor and have the power angle work on it as well. the guy at the Kioti dearler said it does and that it comes with forks as well. They didn't mention that the one I'm getting had a horn but who cares now that I know it's got three cup holders Gee's by I had a Lexus in the shop yesterday and it only had two cup holders.

KL401 has a skid steer type quick attach system. I currently use a bucket, forks and bale spear on mine.

 

[Lloyd_E]

Paul,

Yes I have a quick attach loader. Not sure if it skidsteer style. Angle form on top - two vertical pins bottom at sides. I bought a used set of forks which will be adapted for 3pt hitch as well as loader. - will post pics of project later - when I start it.

Any ideas on fluid film for protection. One of the things I did last night was greased every exposed nut & bolt - our salt air is corrosive.

Lloyd

 

[mark.r]

I can't remember but does the KL451 loader have two levers to drop the bucket or one as opposed to one on the KL401?

Here is a pic from a few weeks ago. Forks I bought from Rick.

 

[Lloyd_E]

mark.r

One lever (joystick?) to drop bucket.

Would you have a clear pic of your forks and attachment style? I have downloaded a number of images for reference - but more is always good.

My plan is to the the forks work on the loader as well as the 3 pt quick attach.

Lloyd

 

[mark.r]

mark.r

One lever (joystick?) to drop bucket.

Would you have a clear pic of your forks and attachment style. I have downloaded a number of images for reference - but more is always good.

My plan is to the the forks work on the loader as well as the 3 pt quick attach.

Lloyd

On lever meaning the lever that is located down behind the bucket/fork/spear/etc. that unlocks whatever is attached to the loader. Some manufact. have to loaders like Kubota I believe. Others have one.

Here is a Kioti loader that has two . . .

Mine has one big lever in the middle that actuates both locks on the each side of the quick attach plate.

Here is what the back of my forks and most implements should look like.

It might be easy to just buy a set of 3 pt. pallet forks than trying to convert a skid steer type to do both but hey I know people who like to create stuff. For me time is money so I would buy them if I needed them.

 

[Lloyd_E]

Mark.r

Thanks. One lever to lock/unlock on the 451. I know about the time/money equation - can you ever have both? With shipping and limited suppliers up here - stuff gets really expensive fast.

I enjoy designing and building stuff. And of course when you need it quickly - its only money!

Thanks for the pics. Now to find the time....

Lloyd

 

[IslandTractor]

Hi,
In my opinion if you are considering a 40 to 45HP tractor you will be hard pressed to find a significant difference between the shuttle and HST. The only obvious difference is the immediate power of a direct drive/gear transmission when the clutch is engaged. Just like a truck...you let out the clutch, you move immediately. With an automatic there is an ever so slight delay while the pressure is built up to drive the wheels. .....KiotiDave

The other point is that it is easier to make very small movements with the HST as you can barely move the pedal and therefore very slowly nudge the tractor forward or back. Very helpful when hooking up implements.

Don't tell the safety police but you can also reach the HST pedals by hand when standing next to the tractor (hooking up an implement) to make small back/forward changes while dismounted.

 

[mark.r]

Don't tell the safety police but you can also reach the HST pedals by hand when standing next to the tractor (hooking up an implement) to make small back/forward changes while dismounted.

I plead the 5th.

 

[Dodgeram]

Don't tell the safety police but you can also reach the HST pedals by hand when standing next to the tractor (hooking up an implement) to make small back/forward changes while dismounted.

I thought that's how you were supposed to hook-up the Back Hoe

 

[IslandTractor]

I thought that's how you were supposed to hook-up the Back Hoe

That's how bad boys hook up backhoes. The good boys hop on and off the tractor 47 times to get the position just right.

 

[4shorts]

Paul,

Yes I have a quick attach loader. Not sure if it skidsteer style. Angle form on top - two vertical pins bottom at sides. I bought a used set of forks which will be adapted for 3pt hitch as well as loader. - will post pics of project later - when I start it.

Any ideas on fluid film for protection. One of the things I did last night was greased every exposed nut & bolt - our salt air is corrosive.

Lloyd

Lloyd that Fluid Film is great stuff. I undercoat my truck with it each year. For a 1993 with orginal paint and plowed snow for the last 13 years with no rust it proves it's good stuff. I'll look forward to seeing your fork project. I may use your ideas

Really like those pictures posted of the quick change system. Great looking system. I'm going to adapt that for my plow that I use on the truck. I hope I can tap into the tilt on the boom so it will angle the plow I'm sure there's a way to do it. I better get the tractor first though . Paul

 

[Lloyd_E]

Island Tractor,

I thought it took 47 times to hook up truck to trailer - especially when the wife is helping! We now longer do this together - too much stress!

"Tell me how close I am and which way to turn before I miss the hitch no after!"

Lloyd

 

[Lloyd_E]

Paul,

With your professional manufacturing and finishing skills in mind I will present the project - but - the shot will be from a distance, 1/4 mile or so!

Lloyd

 

[4shorts]

Paul,

With your professional manufacturing and finishing skills in mind I will present the project - but - the shot will be from a distance, 1/4 mile or so!

Lloyd

Man I had some laugh when you talked about backing up the truck to the trailer hitch. The wife and I are the exact same way. I got her to read it and then I said " See, we're normal after all"

Professional manufacturing and finishing skills. You must have me mixed up with someone else Thanks though!