HST filter stuck good

[slan]

Well, I guess I put my HST filter on a bit too tight on my last change because it is stuck on there real good.

I have a metal band type filter wrench and I could not budge it no way in either direction. I even put a small piece of pipe on the handle and it started to bend the handle. This is not a cheap filter wrench either.:mur:
I have a band type that I can use with a 1/2 drive but am a little scared to be putting that much torque on the filter housing.:confused3:

Any tricks or tips?
My next step will be to get one of the filter wrenches with the jaws that lock into the notches on the filter base I guess.

Or take a shot at it?:shocked:

 

[tommu56]

Poke a good size screw driver straight through it and spin it off
abit messy but but it usually gets the stubborn one's off.

tom

 

[bp fick]

yeah, this is where those cup filters tools, that fit on your 3/8 drive are nice. Problem is having a drawer full of those cups, and dang it, you still run into filters, supposedly the exact same number and everything as before, but the makers change the diameter just a whisker different and the cup either slips or won't fit. I also like the three fingered jaw type as well. The guys at the auto dealerships swear by them.

 

[Thomas]

Do you have enough room for pipe wrench.

 

[CurlyDave]

One of these - Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices will usually work for me.

If not, this Channellock 215 - 15 inch Oil Filter Plier @ Channellock is the next step up, and if I can't get it off with that,

this channellock 480 - 20.25 inch BigAZZ® Tongue and Groove Plier @ Channellock has never failed me, although by the time I work up to that one, the filter is usually a mangled mess.

 

[bp fick]

If you end up using Channel Locks or pipe wrench, try to grip the filter down low, at the base. Gripping it high up is basically twisting on a very thin tin can and it distorts easily. Let us know how it comes out. Best hopes for ya.

 

[gwdixon]

Try one of those chain-type pipe wrenches. They can really apply the torque.

chain pipe wrench

I used one on the L48's transmission filter which is metal-to-metal mounted (not like the rubber O-rings on the HST filters). What finally had to be done was a come-along was hitched to the handle and the other end on the axle. That filter finally came loose. It was ugly but it was off. Good luck to you.

 

[7800DUDE]

next time make sure you lube the rubber first hand tight than a 1/4 turn after that.

 

[Dr. Bob]

I second tommu56 solution. It is one I have used many times. Why go out and spend a lot of money on a new, improved filter wrench and waste all that time driving there? You already have a filter wrench. It just won't do this specific filter.
Now, get that large screwdrive and hammer!

 

[Egon]

Hammer!:thumbsup:

 

[RadarTech]

yea-- the bigger the hammer the easier the fix right?

Had this happen on my 50 hour maint--
the hydro filter was so tight the socket style just spun...
the metal grip one bent and then I had an idea..

I had some thin rubber gasket material..
and then I used a slightly bigger socket type...
put that in the socket and ashamedly used the ratchet to tap it on..

worked like a charm..


I dunno... sometimes ya just got to think like MacGyver!


J

 

[Egon]

worked like a charm..

Thats the way a hammer works on a stubborn filter:thumbsup:

 

[slan]

Thanks guy's
By the sounds of it I should not be to concerned about over torquing the filter housing so I think I will try one of those channel lock types and come on to it with a vengeance.:thumbsup:
It will have to wait until I get back from Cuba so I will have several cold ones for all that suggested approaches or provided moral support.:licking:
Thanks.....

 

[RadarTech]

your welcome...


J

 

[BobRip]

yeah, this is where those cup filters tools, that fit on your 3/8 drive are nice. Problem is having a drawer full of those cups, and dang it, you still run into filters, supposedly the exact same number and everything as before, but the makers change the diameter just a whisker different and the cup either slips or won't fit. I also like the three fingered jaw type as well. The guys at the auto dealerships swear by them.

I tried putting a paper towel around the filter as a shim and the "just a little too loose" wrench worked.

 

[Arky217]

A tip I learned many years ago on removing screw on filters is to apply a continuous pressure on whatever you're using to unscrew it with.

 

[BotaBX24er]

Mine came tight from the dealer. Channel locked it and bend the heck out of the filter but it came out...eventually...but hey, it's not like I was thinking about re-using it anyways...

 

[ronjhall]

One of these - Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices will usually work for me.

If not, this Channellock 215 - 15 inch Oil Filter Plier @ Channellock is the next step up, and if I can't get it off with that,

this channellock 480 - 20.25 inch BigAZZｮ Tongue and Groove Plier @ Channellock has never failed me, although by the time I work up to that one, the filter is usually a mangled mess.

Large Channel-Locks work great on filters. I have used them for years. Just need enough room to get large jaws around filter. I recently purchased the oil filter type. Works as well as the Channel-Locks and easier to get around filter. :thumbsup:

 

[dodge man]

I also have had some filters stuck pretty badly, and also agree a large pair of channel locks is the ticket. I had a friend who tore a filter apart so badly, he had to take a hammer and chisel and drive the base of the filter around in a circle. He had demolished the filter so badly nothing was left except the part stuck in the engine block.

 

[CurlyDave]

If you completely destroy the filter, many of the nipples they screw onto I have seen have a square hole which fits a 3/8" socket drive extension.

I would put a short extension on a breaker bar and take out the nipple before I used a chisel. A lot less can go wrong.