hst experience

shoppintractors · Feb 5, 2005

Similarly, a task like using a Snow Blower requires the PTO but really doesn't put too much stress on anything else, it can typically be done in HIGH range. You can even operate a tiller in HIGH range without much trouble.


I'm sure you can operate a tiller in high range however, depending on the soil conditions, I believe you'll find medium or low range a more commonly used range for tiller application. Unless of course, you feel the need for speed /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif while tilling. Your mileage may vary....

Don

cdt80 · Feb 5, 2005

I think the most important comment on this thread was made by Shoppintractors:
"A common error seems to be, trying to operate the HST tractor-pedal like a gas-pedal in a car. A car's gas-pedal is the throttle. On a HST tractor the throttle is on the dash."
The HST pedal is oversimplified a range within a range. Pick the gear Low, Med, High, and then the HST pedal gives you the speed range within this gear selection. I believe some are using the pedal at first like a gas pedal when in fact this is probably the most detrimental procedure to use. Start slower and increase the speed on the HST pedal. Again, think range within a range. As for Hydros being reliable, they are in nearly all, (and probably it is safe to say all) of the large grain combines produced. I know it is not the same hydro but the principle is the same among all of the manufacturers. Not only are these hydros pulling the huge machines through the field but they are loaded with over #20,000 of grain and they do it all day long.
Not in High gear though. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

KiotiJohn · Feb 5, 2005

Cag, I totally misunderstood the way you worded that post about reliability. You're correct, when posters leave us hanging, it doesn't look good for the involved brand.

Most of the time I believe the problem is in the operation, not the equipment. Newer CK25/30 owner's manuals have a little more information on using HST and Shuttle in section 15 Appendix "operating tips" that I wrote in in the last edition. I see now that I could have gone another step in that treatise by getting more specific about adding RPM when the tractor appears to be under performing. John

shoppintractors · Feb 5, 2005

I would also like to had that my wife was very comfortable driving the CK30hst... 

Once you master the operational technique of the HST tractor they are very user friendly. The wife will find the CK30HST easy to operate.

With that said, I would recommend you purchase the shuttle shift because otherwise your personal seat time stands to be drastically reduced. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Don

cag · Feb 6, 2005

Sorry for not replying sooner, I was away at the cottage and we just came back. To all, thanks for your reply's.. Don your right, problem's are only problem's when issues are not resolved. Now here is what I think about hst .. Overall it's a reliable trany. This being said... I feel I need to educate my self more on hst. I have no doubts hst can perform well to my need's as long as the proper range is selected and that the use is made within the tractor limits. I also need to learn more on the hst pop up. As this happened when I tried the CK30 loader, of course I force the bucket to make this happen. One more thing I would like to mention is that I have been TBN member now for about 1 year, I've talked tractors and purchase now for some time. My wife and I look at all the work that need's to be done at both our properties and man I tell you I would need one now. Unfortunately I have to take care of a other ISSUES first . And if your wondering... please don't ask. I needed to justify this to you guy's, I don't want to give the impression that I'm here just kicking tires. ....cag

Bob_Skurka · Feb 6, 2005

I'm sure you can operate a tiller in high range however, depending on the soil conditions, I believe you'll find medium or low range a more commonly used range for tiller application. 

Not to be nitpicky, but the torque on the PTO should not change regardless of the range the transmission is in. A HST tractor, with 2 or 3 ranges can go slow in EVERY range. The key with running a tiller is to go slow enough to get the job done properly, that can be done in any range on a HST tractor. Now a gear machine would be totally different. About the only time I ever use the "cruise control" function is when using a tiller, and the range the transmission is in really becomes irrelevant.

shoppintractors · Feb 6, 2005

A HST tractor, with 2 or 3 ranges can go slow in EVERY range. 

Forgive me Bob, I was geared (pun intended) into a three range (L-M-H) hydro discussion. Yes the PTO should be the same in any range. I'm sure you can use (3 range HST) high range for tilling, however, IMO high range would not be my first choice. Afterall, it's all about choices. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

With a two range hydro (L-H). IMO high range would be a more common range to use for tilling. As always, your results may vary....

Don

cag · Feb 6, 2005

Beside the info I requested on the so call hst pop up. I would like to know how the cruise control work is that in function with the hst peddle... cag

cdt80 · Feb 6, 2005

Cruise control: Push the HST pedal to the working speed you want then "lock" the pedal at this position. I believe you can press the pedal down to go faster such as the ends then release your foot from the pedal and it will return to the original working speed. You need to unlock the pedal to go slower.

shoppintractors · Feb 6, 2005

I also need to learn more on the hst pop up. As this happened when I tried the CK30 loader, of course I force the bucket to make this happen. 

You need to go into more detail exactly what you were doing that caused the Hydraulic relief valve to "pop-off" while using the CK30 loader.

Don