Beltzington
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Here's a nice side view of an average coyote, I have never seen a dog with similar features. Get a game cam, there dirt cheap anymore and you will be surprised what passes through your yard at night.
How to deter coyotes
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Here's a nice side view of an average coyote, I have never seen a dog with similar features. Get a game cam, there dirt cheap anymore and you will be surprised what passes through your yard at night.
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Yeah, I can see the difference for sure there. Didn't realize it was that obvious. Thank you. There's a game cam on my birthday list.
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Coyotes/foxes don't raise their notably fluffy tails above a 'straight out' position. Smelliest ones may have mange, give off that funky smell like a dog's festering wound if you've ever found that. Other smelly ones have rolled in funk like your beagle is sure to. Male fox can have a skunk-like odor (pheromones), though 'sweeter', if you can call it that. Females will have black-tipped guard hairs on body & tail that we don't find on males around here.
We throw skinned animals ('coon, squirrel,.rabbit bits, muskrat ,etc) into a 'bait pile' away from pets/livestock and set snares for canines that come to it. Loop height excludes most non-target catches. ('Possum, 'coon & skunk typically go under them.) Best tracking (runs) is after a new snow, but I plowed 3" of snow before noon & got 3" since, a bit deep for 'trudging' our lines. (We waited for another snow and have to cope with the uh, excess.)
No black vultures this far North, but they are pack predators unlike our benign, scavenging turkey vultures. Thought they're a Southern thing, but OHIO?
We throw skinned animals ('coon, squirrel,.rabbit bits, muskrat ,etc) into a 'bait pile' away from pets/livestock and set snares for canines that come to it. Loop height excludes most non-target catches. ('Possum, 'coon & skunk typically go under them.) Best tracking (runs) is after a new snow, but I plowed 3" of snow before noon & got 3" since, a bit deep for 'trudging' our lines. (We waited for another snow and have to cope with the uh, excess.)
No black vultures this far North, but they are pack predators unlike our benign, scavenging turkey vultures. Thought they're a Southern thing, but OHIO?
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Easiest way to control coyotes is to kill them. Unless that is your cup of tea you might want to make friends with a trapper and or some hunters who are after coyotes. Steady hunting pressure and trapping on your property will move them to your neighbor's place.
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If they are messing with your livestock, it doesn't matter. Dead is dead. Dog/coyote no difference after it is dead.
I put some trail cams around the pen and haven't seen one yet... I know they're around. Around deer season I heard barking and yipping near my house. I went out the next day and found this..
Anybody think a couple strands of barbed wire on top my 6' fence would keep them from climbing over? As soon as the ground thaws I'll bury some fence around the pen.
Anybody think a couple strands of barbed wire on top my 6' fence would keep them from climbing over? As soon as the ground thaws I'll bury some fence around the pen.
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Been doing the flat-fence-below-ground bit for years inside the dog pen to keep the beagle from digging out. White poly lattice cut to 2' x 8', sometimes 16" x 8', doesn't rot or rust. Not cheap, but very effective. Chicken wire works UG too for as long as it lasts (years) and snagging a claw or two sends the right message. Barbed wire (doubled for more 'points') atop a 6' fence should discourage jumpers year 'round.
btw, Ever notice how big coyote footprints are compared to the o'all size of the beast? Typically compares to a dog of 2x size or wt.
btw, Ever notice how big coyote footprints are compared to the o'all size of the beast? Typically compares to a dog of 2x size or wt.
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I have been hunting coyotes on a sheep farm near Manchester for the last 5 years. You are never done with it. They will constantly change their tactics and you will end up interacting with members from several different "clans" which may do things in a totally different way, based on the experience of the alpha.
There are specialist "no-climb" fence products out there which are welded instead of woven and the vertical strands are close enough together to make it basically impossible to get a decent foothold. I have seen it used in Colorado to provide protection for Alpacas. Even then, there were several alternating hot wires in front of the barrier a couple feet with a high energy energizer with a higher frequency rate which makes it basically impossible for a predator to get through without being hit a few times. This is often needed for black bear which can be very persistent and can even learn to tell if the fence is energised without touching it.
So, if this is a long term plan (keeping defenceless livestock), you are going to need good fencing first and then you are going to need a well maintained electric barrier around that which is sufficiently fast to prevent it from being breached.
The history of the sheep farm I help out on: Prior to getting involved, they lost the majority of their lambs and up to 1/4 of the breed herd (about 75-100 ewes total) during summer daylight raids. In the winter, spring and fall it would be attacks at night including some at first and last light. I hunted them primarily at first light until I killed the boldest ones and they retreated farther and farther from the barn where the sheep sleep at night and where the great pyrenees has a "circle of influence". There are too many coyotes active at night for even such a large dog to have free movement. Once that point had been reached, most of the activity was either nocturnal or during the day in summer when I am at work. I invested quite a lot of money in a 3rd gen NV scope and started hunting them at night. After killing a few at night, we went several months with minimal activity. But don't count on it, if one group of coyotes gets "educated" and moves out, another group will quickly move in. This was all on a 120 acre property which has several hollows the coyotes can move in without being readily observed unless you are out in the field.
We have not had much snow this year, so that makes tracking them and determining their movements difficult. This is best done first thing in the morning before animals on the farm become active.
If you need any advice or help, send me a PM here on the forum. I am located near Napoleon.
There are specialist "no-climb" fence products out there which are welded instead of woven and the vertical strands are close enough together to make it basically impossible to get a decent foothold. I have seen it used in Colorado to provide protection for Alpacas. Even then, there were several alternating hot wires in front of the barrier a couple feet with a high energy energizer with a higher frequency rate which makes it basically impossible for a predator to get through without being hit a few times. This is often needed for black bear which can be very persistent and can even learn to tell if the fence is energised without touching it.
So, if this is a long term plan (keeping defenceless livestock), you are going to need good fencing first and then you are going to need a well maintained electric barrier around that which is sufficiently fast to prevent it from being breached.
The history of the sheep farm I help out on: Prior to getting involved, they lost the majority of their lambs and up to 1/4 of the breed herd (about 75-100 ewes total) during summer daylight raids. In the winter, spring and fall it would be attacks at night including some at first and last light. I hunted them primarily at first light until I killed the boldest ones and they retreated farther and farther from the barn where the sheep sleep at night and where the great pyrenees has a "circle of influence". There are too many coyotes active at night for even such a large dog to have free movement. Once that point had been reached, most of the activity was either nocturnal or during the day in summer when I am at work. I invested quite a lot of money in a 3rd gen NV scope and started hunting them at night. After killing a few at night, we went several months with minimal activity. But don't count on it, if one group of coyotes gets "educated" and moves out, another group will quickly move in. This was all on a 120 acre property which has several hollows the coyotes can move in without being readily observed unless you are out in the field.
We have not had much snow this year, so that makes tracking them and determining their movements difficult. This is best done first thing in the morning before animals on the farm become active.
If you need any advice or help, send me a PM here on the forum. I am located near Napoleon.
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Well, that's a worthless wall! :laughing: Geeze, I expected it to be a little harder. Man, just boink! Right on up there. Them and cockroaches will be all that's left at the end.