Tractor Sizing How much?

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DNC

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I'm looking at trailers to haul my CT450 and implements. What is the weight of a CT450? Any advice on trailer size would be welcomed.
 
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Have you looked in your owners manual or on the Bobcat website? I would think that you would be able to find out there.
 
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And if you have a loader, don't forget to add that in as well.

Are you looking at bumper pull trailers or goosenecks? A lot of variables to look at besides weight, including your tow rig.
 
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DNC said:
I'm looking at trailers to haul my CT450 and implements. What is the weight of a CT450? Any advice on trailer size would be welcomed.

Well a CT450 is pretty big, I think it's bigger than my CT335, I have a 16' and I make it work. I will get a 18 next go around, but so far the 16' does me fine.
 
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Don't forget to consider what you will have hanging off the back also. If you have a finish mower or tiller or something like that, you are going to need some extra lenth. I have a CT230 and with my bucket cutting edge against the front of my 20' trailer, I don't have much room left from the back of the finish mower to the end of the trailer. I am talking maybe 2-3 feet. I suspect your CT450 is a bit longer than my CT230.
 
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According to the Bobcat website the CT450 is 3935 lbs without a FEL or anything else. It's about 11' long without attachments.
 
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My DK40SE is about 21' long with the loader and bucket on and a 5' rotary mower on the back.
The open station tractor is 3900lbs, if I recall the loader and bucket is 1100lbs, loaded rears adds maybe 600-800lbs, mower is 600lbs, or my box blade is 1100lbs.
So 7000lbs isn't out of the question depending on your setup.
 
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According to the OP manual, in specifications section, CT450 with Bob-Tach loader & bucket, loaded tires, and 1110 lbs. recommended rear ballast is 7340 lbs. Add 450 lbs. for cab unit. Base tractor is 3935#, loader is 985#.
 
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I would highly recommend at least a 20ft trailer, 10K capacity as a minimum. I have a DK40SE HST (same size as the CT450) and if I have my FEL and brush bull on, I have to pull it forward and put the bucket down over the tongue of my 18 ft trailer. Like mentioned before, what will you be pulling it with??? If you can get a goose-neck, then you could possible set your bucket on the "neck" if needed. If you can, go for 22 ft.....you'll never regret it......I'm always wishing I had a longer trailer!!!!

Some other points/tips to think about and check out.....make sure you get brakes on all 4 wheels! Double check the tire size and load rating or your tires....if a 15" tire, you'll probably be looking at a 225 - 75 - 15 D rated tires.

If you get hinged ramps on the rear, be sure to get them spring loaded!!! Makes life so much easier!!! The springs should be b/w $22 to $30 add-on if not already standard equipment. I have a friend whose trailer had vertical slide pins to hold the ramps up.....the metal was too soft and the weight of the ramps bent the pins. I added on side bars (45 degree angle) for him and he's much happier.

I have a wooden deck....7 yrs old now and still doing well though I've not maintained the wood.

Hope this helps??!!
 
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Thanks for all the input. I'll be pulling with a F250 with a 6.8 gas. Really don't want a gooseneck since I'm only hauling occasionly. Sounds like bigger is better.
 
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I would highly recommend at least a 20ft trailer, 10K capacity as a minimum. I have a DK40SE HST (same size as the CT450) and if I have my FEL and brush bull on, I have to pull it forward and put the bucket down over the tongue of my 18 ft trailer. Like mentioned before, what will you be pulling it with??? If you can get a goose-neck, then you could possible set your bucket on the "neck" if needed. If you can, go for 22 ft.....you'll never regret it......I'm always wishing I had a longer trailer!!!!

Some other points/tips to think about and check out.....make sure you get brakes on all 4 wheels! Double check the tire size and load rating or your tires....if a 15" tire, you'll probably be looking at a 225 - 75 - 15 D rated tires.

If you get hinged ramps on the rear, be sure to get them spring loaded!!! Makes life so much easier!!! The springs should be b/w $22 to $30 add-on if not already standard equipment. I have a friend whose trailer had vertical slide pins to hold the ramps up.....the metal was too soft and the weight of the ramps bent the pins. I added on side bars (45 degree angle) for him and he's much happier.

I have a wooden deck....7 yrs old now and still doing well though I've not maintained the wood.

Hope this helps??!!

I agree 10k and at least 20ft.
 
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Thanks for all the input. I'll be pulling with a F250 with a 6.8 gas. Really don't want a gooseneck since I'm only hauling occasionly. Sounds like bigger is better.
Bigger better, longer... yes. I always find myself wishing I had purchased more, bigger, better, etc. It gets expensive upgrading later on. Going on tractor #3 and trailer #3 and just upgraded to hauling truck #3.
 
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I have a CT450 with backhoe and loader. I haul mine with a 24foot lowboy gooseneck rated at 14,000. At 24 it fits perfect. You will be fine with a 12,000 trailer
 
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I honestly don't know why anyone would mess with a 7000, or 10,000 lbs tandem axle trailer. The smallest I would ever go is 14,000. Other than a slight increase in cost initially there are no down sides. Weight of the trailer is within 500 lbs of the 7k, you can always use the extra capacity. Tires last forever, larger selection of tires when the time comes to replace. The trailer will last for ever. If you plan to only haul 7k you will not be worried if you have the capacity and pick up something extra along the way. I have 5 trailers and the smallest are the 3 14k trailers, and sometimes they are too small. Anyone who has owned a trailer will agree, you always need bigger. Lol
 
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I honestly don't know why anyone would mess with a 7000, or 10,000 lbs tandem axle trailer. The smallest I would ever go is 14,000. Other than a slight increase in cost initially there are no down sides. Weight of the trailer is within 500 lbs of the 7k, you can always use the extra capacity. Tires last forever, larger selection of tires when the time comes to replace. The trailer will last for ever. If you plan to only haul 7k you will not be worried if you have the capacity and pick up something extra along the way. I have 5 trailers and the smallest are the 3 14k trailers, and sometimes they are too small. Anyone who has owned a trailer will agree, you always need bigger. Lol
Yeap! And most 10K's are 7K trailers with 5200# axles on them and angle iron 24" oc.
 
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I honestly don't know why anyone would mess with a 7000, or 10,000 lbs tandem axle trailer. The smallest I would ever go is 14,000. Other than a slight increase in cost initially there are no down sides. Weight of the trailer is within 500 lbs of the 7k, you can always use the extra capacity. Tires last forever, larger selection of tires when the time comes to replace. The trailer will last for ever. If you plan to only haul 7k you will not be worried if you have the capacity and pick up something extra along the way. I have 5 trailers and the smallest are the 3 14k trailers, and sometimes they are too small. Anyone who has owned a trailer will agree, you always need bigger. Lol

I have been thinking about trailer for my tractor. Tractor, loader, cab, a implement, and a the weight of the trailer could be close to 10k. You are right the OP should have a 14k.
 
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I honestly don't know why anyone would mess with a 7000, or 10,000 lbs tandem axle trailer. The smallest I would ever go is 14,000. Other than a slight increase in cost initially there are no down sides. Weight of the trailer is within 500 lbs of the 7k, you can always use the extra capacity. Tires last forever, larger selection of tires when the time comes to replace. The trailer will last for ever. If you plan to only haul 7k you will not be worried if you have the capacity and pick up something extra along the way. I have 5 trailers and the smallest are the 3 14k trailers, and sometimes they are too small. Anyone who has owned a trailer will agree, you always need bigger. Lol

In the State of Maine, 10,000 lb GVWR and up trailers are required to have an annual saftey inspection. Not cheap
 
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In the State of Maine, 10,000 lb GVWR and up trailers are required to have an annual saftey inspection. Not cheap

In Virginia it is 3k and up, inspections are $16 I think.
 
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So you guys pulling over 10k, do you all have commercial drivers licences? I thought that pulling a 10,001lb trailer required a CDL. :confused3: Or do you just stay off of the Interstates?
 

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