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How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete?
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LOL? Is there any evidence the coal plant has been refurbished, and if so, by who?
Yeah, I know nobody ever really changes their opinions but it’s an interesting conversation nonetheless.
Are you suggesting there’s a global conspiracy by someone (some group?) who‘s pulling down any internet page that has news or data that is favorable to coal and big tech? Now you have me intrigued, tell me more.
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Where in post 294 or the link in that post does it say that particular coal plant was refurbished?
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Google's algorithm is very biased towards only promoting green energy search results. Try it for yourself.
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I guess one needs to understand that carbon capture is new and therefore updates to a plant for those updates would require some refurbishing.
I guess you want something in black and white, with a sentence that says, we refurbished on this date.
I have nothing to show that is in black and white, just some common sense about new tech on old power plants.
I‘m familiar with the workings of search algorithms - unfortunately for me I have to sit through two meetings every week discussing just that (not Google’s). But that’s OK, I was really more interested in the conspiracy angle anyway
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I‘m familiar with the workings of search algorithms - unfortunately for me I have to sit through two meetings every week discussing just that (not Google’s). But that’s OK, I was really more interested in the conspiracy angle anyway
Yeah, the bait you were offering was not that enticing. Might need to hit up the bait shop for some new lures.
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I know that carbon capture is relatively new, and so are the environmental and financial incentives to do it. I'd like to read up on the technology.
You said that Amazon paid to have that coal plant refurbished, yet the latest dated material I could find was January of this year, just 4 months old, and it says plans are still not finalized from the companies that want to do the carbon capture (non of them Amazon), and it's looking like it won't be economically feasible because the carbon dioxide that they want that coal plant to generate to use to extract oil will still cost more than carbon dioxide that they can get elsewhere, like natural gas fired plants. It doesn't appear that anyone has invested anything in that plant as of January. The plant is still slated to be closed in 2027 as of January.
So yes, I'd like to see stuff in black and white so I can read it myself, rather than "I've heard" from 3rd parties. I'm curious by nature.
Personally, I'd like to see coal, solar, wind, and hydro all dumped for nuclear. That will never happen, in my opinion (not documented fact), because you could replace thousands of the current power plants with just hundreds of nuclear plants. That would mean a reduction in work force at the closed power plants, a reduction of work force at fossil fuel facilities that supply those plants, a loss of jobs in solar and wind. Besides the job losses, there'd be big oil and gas that would lose out on sales, as well as the power companies that own their own fossil fuel fields. Despite the overall gain in cost savings and environmental quality by cutting fossil fuels for power generation, it will never happen in our lifetimes.
