Honesty

[LD48750]

In today's society, many people demand that all people should say what is on their minds. You don't have to. Just say that your thoughts on a person are private and you wish to keep them that way. Two generations ago, most people didn't blab anything and everything that came into their heads. :muttering:

In todays society saying what's on our mind just may get you arrested.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Speaking the TRUTH will get you much the same.

 

[orezok]

I don't attend funerals sometimes in my own family. I am the last of 5 boys that is still alive. As the 2 oldest neared death, I went to visit them to tell them how they were loved and respected. I also told them that I would not attend their funerals as I had said directly to them while alive what was important and that is what mattered most to both of us. My third oldest brother died of a heart attack so I was not able to speak with him near the end. We did stay in touch up to his death. I did attend his funeral. My next older brother disappeared about 10 or 12 years ago. No one of the family or friends have heard from him since then. He was a free spirit traveling around the country on his motorcycle and l suppose he just died somewhere. Basic searches have turned up nothing and he never collected his social security.

Now for me. I told my wife that when I pass to cremate me, put me in a shoe box and bury me with the dogs. No memorial! She agreed.

 

[ruffdog]

I don't attend funerals sometimes in my own family. I am the last of 5 boys that is still alive. As the 2 oldest neared death, I went to visit them to tell them how they were loved and respected. I also told them that I would not attend their funerals as I had said directly to them while alive what was important and that is what mattered most to both of us. My third oldest brother died of a heart attack so I was not able to speak with him near the end. We did stay in touch up to his death. I did attend his funeral. My next older brother disappeared about 10 or 12 years ago. No one of the family or friends have heard from him since then. He was a free spirit traveling around the country on his motorcycle and l suppose he just died somewhere. Basic searches have turned up nothing and he never collected his social security.

Now for me. I told my wife that when I pass to cremate me, put me in a shoe box and bury me with the dogs. No memorial! She agreed.

^^^^agree with all :thumbsup: We are all on the same trip but we all take a different means of transportation.

 

[oosik]

The wife passed eleven years ago. As per her wishes - cremation and burial next to her favorite flowering cherry tree. I've told my son - cremate me and bury me next to the wife. Gather my friends and crack a keg of beer. I'll be happy - finally being with my wife again.

 

[/pine]

Honestly?...(Excluding all present company of course (>wink,wink<)...!
We definitely run across and have to deal with people that rub us the wrong way (hehehe) on terms long enough where you get to the point where you begin to wonder...just how bad can prison food be?...!

 

[MoKelly]

Honestly?...(Excluding all present company of course (>wink,wink<)...!
We definitely run across and have to deal with people that rub us the wrong way (hehehe) on terms long enough where you get to the point where you begin to wonder...just how bad can prison food be?...!

It’s not the food you need to worry about in prison.

MoKelly

 

[Fuddy1952]

It’s not the food you need to worry about in prison.

MoKelly

It's where the food exits

 

[Steppenwolfe]

The wife passed eleven years ago. As per her wishes - cremation and burial next to her favorite flowering cherry tree. I've told my son - cremate me and bury me next to the wife. Gather my friends and crack a keg of beer. I'll be happy - finally being with my wife again.

roposetoast:

 

[Hay Dude]

The wife passed eleven years ago. As per her wishes - cremation and burial next to her favorite flowering cherry tree. I've told my son - cremate me and bury me next to the wife. Gather my friends and crack a keg of beer. I'll be happy - finally being with my wife again.

Sorry for your loss, oosik. Thats really a nice thought.
My father passed in 2012. He asked us to sprinkle his ashes at a beautiful cliff guarded by hawks and Eagles. Similarly, my mother left us in 2015 and asked to be in the same place with my dad. I did the burial with my brothers and sisters. It felt special to grant their final wishes.

 

[Whidbey]

Speaking the TRUTH will get you much the same.

Have you read Plato's Socrates Apology. It got him killed.

 

[blackdog2086]

A lot of great remarks and stories here, most of which are from members much better than I. There was a time in my life long ago when I was a nice guy keeping my mouth shut unless I was praising or being agreeable. Pretty much all it got me was the "he's a nice guy so it's easy to screw him over" reputation. It took me way too long but I learned that keeping your thoughts and opinions to yourself is a form of dishonesty. If someone is mean or corrupt and nobody ever says anything, they have no reason to believe their behavior isn't acceptable and won't be tolerated.

A dog can only be kicked so many times before it stands up and bites it's aggressor. I did a 180 and although I may not have changed many (or any) people, they knew better than to pull any crap with me. From these same people I would occasionally hear "you used to be such a nice guy." What they were saying is we used to be able to easily take advantage of you but not anymore.

I am talking about people that I have regular contact with and first hand knowledge of, not the person you stand next to in a checkout line or hardware store. I give good people all the respect and courtesy they rightly deserve but I refuse to do the same for those who in my eyes don't.

 

[CobyRupert]

I hear what you’re saying. But is it speaking “the truth” or “your truth”? We live in a new world where there aren’t facts anymore. Everybody has there own version.
So often I run into these “ F*** your feelings, I tell it like it is!” guys, and they’re just WRONG. Straight up ignorant and misinformed.
....and who has the time, energy or desire to research and explain actual facts to someone who doesn’t want to hear it and just doubles down on their ignorance...or deflects with “what about” something/somebody else.
Most are just mad at life and want to argue. Just a draining, negative experience. You’re not going to fix them or “set them straight” with those kinds of interactions. Move on. Life’s too short and there’s too many ignoramuses.

 

[blackdog2086]

Truth is anything an individual believes no matter what the basis. I'm a fact guy and will use them to dispel "truths" whenever necessary. Facts and logic are a major annoyance to ignorant people. I believe in studying and learning from history, not rewriting it to suit an agenda.

 

[MoKelly]

I really miss the days when my friends and I could argue politics, economy, taxes, sports, religion, whatever - then admit we are never going to change anyone else’s opinion - and go have a few beers.

We were still friends. We still went to games together, hunted together and had meals together.

That is rare today. Arguments get heated. People get really really really mad.

Makes me sad. I don’t necessarily only want friends who agree with everything I say.

MoKelly

 

[/pine]

Truth is anything an individual believes no matter what the basis. I'm a fact guy and will use them to dispel "truths" whenever necessary. Facts and logic are a major annoyance to ignorant people. I believe in studying and learning from history, not rewriting it to suit an agenda.

That's funny considering that those that write history (old and new) also have or had an agenda...

Before the days of video cameras everywhere...almost all history was derived from human eye witnesses...FYI...eye witnesses are notoriously bad sources of information....have five different people witness an event and you will get five different versions of the event...

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I really miss the days when my friends and I could argue politics, economy, taxes, sports, religion, whatever - then admit we are never going to change anyone else’s opinion - and go have a few beers.

We were still friends. We still went to games together, hunted together and had meals together.

That is rare today. Arguments get heated. People get really really really mad.

Makes me sad. I don’t necessarily only want friends who agree with everything I say.

MoKelly

One of my best friends is 180 degrees opposite of me politically, and we are light years apart in our choice of Presidents; yet we put that behind us and it has never become an issue. I trust him explicitly, and somehow our differences make us stronger I believe.

 

[MoKelly]

One of my best friends is 180 degrees opposite of me politically, and we are light years apart in our choice of Presidents; yet we put that behind us and it has never become an issue. I trust him explicitly, and somehow our differences make us stronger I believe.

You are fortunate. That is good.

MoKelly

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Truth is anything an individual believes no matter what the basis. I'm a fact guy and will use them to dispel "truths" whenever necessary. Facts and logic are a major annoyance to ignorant people. I believe in studying and learning from history, not rewriting it to suit an agenda.

History, as it has traditionally been written, has it's own agenda... to perpetrate the cause of the writer.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

You are fortunate. That is good.

MoKelly

Well, he is only one guy after all... so, I share your pain as well. Especially with family, don't get me started on that one. :confused2: