HELP! B2910 won't start!

[dlabrie]

HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

I am in the middle of a big project and my tractor won't start! It has 100 hours on it and I have had it for 13 months. I parked it and when I went to start it I got nothing at all. No crank, click or anything. I made sure the PTOs were not engaged, the clutch was pressesd down. I checked the fuses on the RF firewall, they were OK. Oil and Hydro fluids OK. Lights shine brightly. What am I missing?
Thanks David

 

[Bird]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

<font color=blue>PTOs were not engaged, the clutch was pressesd down</font color=blue>

And the range selector lever was in one of the "neutral" positions? I'd probably start by moving the range selector lever forward and backward while holding the key in the start position to see if a safety switch was not adjusted just right. If that didn't help, I'd try the same thing with the PTO engagement levers, and if that didn't work, I'd be looking under there to see if a wire was loose from one of the safety switches (or somewhere else).

 

[dlabrie]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

And the range selector lever was in one of the "neutral" positions?

Bird,
I have never had to have the range selector lever in a neutral position. It has always started in any position. I went out and tried what you suggested but it didn't work. I can't seem to shift the rear PTO lever out of the off position . It is getting dark now and will have to look for the safety switches in the AM.
Thanks,
David

 

[hayden]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

I think there's another in-line fuse by the starter. Not positive exactly where or what its for, but you could check that.

 

[kubmech]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

Hayden, that fuse is for the main power. Without that you will not have any power to anything. I'm pretty sure they moved the switch from the range shifter to the HST pedal. Try rocking the pedal while holding the key to start, make sure the range shifter is in neutral to avoid going for an un expected ride. The problem they were having was if you stopped in gear and the machine was loaded up, say on a slight incline or jammed into a pile. You couldn't get the range shifter back into neutral due to gear wind up. So they moved it to the pedal.

 

[Bird]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

Thanks, Kubmech; I didn't know they'd moved that one.

 

[dlabrie]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

"Try rocking the pedal while holding the key to start ..."
Art (Kubmech),
THANKS!!! It worked!!! I was getting worried because the service dept at the local dealership is less than stellar. They are also very slow at getting to your equipment. Where is the safety switch for the speed control? If it is going bad I'd like to replace it.

Thanks to all the TBNers who so generously give of their time to help each other out.
David

 

[kubmech]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

I can't remember for sure, If it's not in the area of the pedal, it may be on the left side behind the rear fender. Linkage runs to the left for the "cruise control".

 

[hayden]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

I knew there was no interlock on the range shifter (my old B2400 had one and I disabled it), but I never knew there was one on the HST peddle. Learn something new every day.

 

[duckboy]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

I have a 2710...and have had problems starting it at times.
I finally figured out that the safety switches were not adjusted
properly. All three of them caused me problems, and they are not that easy to get to and get them adjusted. But no problems since getting them right. And they never seem to be a problem when parked next to the shop.

PR

 

[dlabrie]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

I finally had a chance to get under the tractor. I cleaned and oiled everything that moved with the HST pedal. I also oiled the safety switch. Haven't had a problem since. How does one adjust the saftey switches?
David

 

[duckboy]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

The hardest part in adjusting the switches is getting a
wrench to the nuts on the threaded shaft. I used slip
joint pliers to loosen one of the nuts and it will slide off
the bracket. Then I adjusted the nuts so the switch sets
a little higher in the bracket for better contact. While you
are under there, look around for the other two switches
so you will know where they are. I believe there is one by
the rear axel, and another one forward, besides the one for the clutch.
Like I said, I had to do some adjusting on all three.


PR

 

[RobertN]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

There's no crank? What kind of tractor don't have a crank? Heck, the crank should sit in a couple clips right next to the seat.

Honestly though, it seems it would be nice to have an auxillary starting method, especially since you can't push start a hydro tranny. The battery on my B8200 was going south a couple years ago. It wouldn't crank over to fire. It would have been nice to have a crank start, or be able to bump start it.

I imagine though, that little diesel has lots higher compression than my old Farmall(she starts on the second crank most the time, third crank worst case). Jeez, I imagine if these little diesels did have an auxillary crank start, with all the compression they have it would have a nasty kick-back.

 

[duckboy]

Re: HELP! B2910 won\'t start!

Hand crank??? Brings back memories of clearing this property with Dad. We had an old Fordson, the ones with huge all steel wheels. Had to crank that. Tractors have certainly changed since those machines were in use. But they were real brutes once you got them going. The exhaust
was pointed down and I remember putting out many a grass
fire in the pastures we were clearing. I saw a Fordson at a nursery the other day, now used as garden art, and I had flash backs of lots of noise, some fires under the tractor, steel splinters from the choker cable while pulling brush and trees,
Dad warming the magnitoes on the radiators at night so it would start in the morning, and my friends playing while we were working on the farm. I have always wondered if some
of the kids I grew up with would have been better people if
they had spent more time like I did, working every night and weekends instead of always playing. My kids never had
video games.....I don't think they were deprived, but enriched instead by spending their time with 4-H, riding horses and spending time with my Mom and Dad at the farm.
What's this have to do with a tractor not starting......I don't know! But that cranking question and not enough coffee
kind of got me to thinking.

PR