Heavy Duty Compact Tractor

   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #21  
We just doubled the price again but you can have a seat with ac and lift 2 tons. The one with wheels is my neighbor’s machine. It has 3200 hours and works hard on a paving crew every day. A tractor would have been broke every way you could break a tractor if it did the same work.
And one step up gets us into a Mecalac skid/excavator
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   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #23  
Ok, so first, "compact" is relative, and you Did say regardless of price...

So, based on that, and the heavy duty; you really should look at JD-210; New Holland, and Case "skip loaders", grade tractors, whatever you prefer to call them. They aren't "that" large, but they are "that" heavy, and heavy duty. New, you're probably in the$75-90k range;
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #24  
And one step up gets us into a Mecalac skid/excavator
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You get one machine at the price of 2. I can’t make that make sense and and apparently most people can’t either because I’ve never seen one on a job. There’s less money in these machines than what that costs by a good margin.
 

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   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #25  
About the only compact I know that could sustain some serious loader work is probably the Fiat 35-66. Arguably one of the best compact tractors ever made.

One of the best things about this tractor is that it has planetary final drives on both front and rear axles. This axle design can handle some serious abuse.

I don't think these ever made to US though.

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I really like the specs & build of Fiat 35-66 and it's too bad there seems to be none on this continent.

Of well, I will stick with the 86 Ford 1310 for now.
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #26  
The JD 110 Backhoe was a commercially designed compact TLB. Kubota has the B26 and the L47, but like all things Kubota, they are not built heavy. They are on the lighter side of equipment specs.

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   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #27  
The JD 110 Backhoe was a commercially designed compact TLB. Kubota has the B26 and the L47, but like all things Kubota, they are not built heavy. They are on the lighter side of equipment specs.

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The JD110, the complains ive heard, not home owner, utility companies that had them; so keep that in mind, they ar2 comparing to a JD-35 mini or a JD-310 TLB; 1) Gutless loader when pushing piles/backfilling. 2) low road travel speed

They compliment its back boe digging power
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #28  
The JD 110 Backhoe was a commercially designed compact TLB. Kubota has the B26 and the L47, but like all things Kubota, they are not built heavy. They are on the lighter side of equipment specs.

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I agree that they aren’t built to the level of real industrial equipment but neither was the 110. The 110 had more problems breaking than the M59 did.
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #29  
I bought a "Compact" 47hp tractor 25 year ago. A Long Landtrac, because of the local dealer. It served me well but if I worked it at the 47 hp level something would break. Replaced it with a Mahindra 5155 this spring. The Mahindra is a ton heavier and a bigger tractor. It is a "Utility" tractor and simple. My only complaint is the clutch location, I need the seat adjusted forward or I don't fully depress the clutch and grind the shuttle. I'm average sized, 6 ft and 200 lbs.

If you need a commercial quality loader, look used or plan on replacing your "Compact" every few years.
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #30  
About the only compact I know that could sustain some serious loader work is probably the Fiat 35-66. Arguably one of the best compact tractors ever made.

One of the best things about this tractor is that it has planetary final drives on both front and rear axles. This axle design can handle some serious abuse.

I don't think these ever made to US though.

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About the only compact I know that could sustain some serious loader work is probably the Fiat 35-66. Arguably one of the best compact tractors ever made.

One of the best things about this tractor is that it has planetary final drives on both front and rear axles. This axle design can handle some serious abuse.

I don't think these ever made to US though.



On the other hand, if the OP is looking for an heavy duty tractor just because of loader work, might as well just get a machine that was actually built to be a loader.

Those smaller articulated wheel loaders, like those Avant, Giant, MultiOne and other makes, are designed and built to be a loader. Can handle all the abuse you can put on those. Offer faster and smooth hydraulics with a lot more reach using the telescoping boom.

More expensive than a tractor? Sure but then again, it's built to be a loader.

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I would put my old Rhino 554 up against that Fiat as far as the size of castings and things like hubs and rear axle size and weight, the 554 bare weight is 5200lb+ before ROPS, wheel weights, or FEL, with those basics around 7500lb.

The Op sounds like he actually needs an articulated wheel loader.
 
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   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #31  
Here is some Fiat 35-66 information:

Fiat 35-66
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #32  
Here is some Fiat 35-66 information:

Fiat 35-66

That is a neat machine Lots of gear choices locking front and rear planetary axles and VERY compact.

They don't list any FEL info - wonder what it came with?
 
   / Heavy Duty Compact Tractor #35  
This is what I have:

TYM 2515R: for smallish jobs, this 25hp tractor is actually a detuned 36hp tractor/chassis/loader and as such, it really does punch above its weight (hp). Loader is rated for 2,200lbs and it'll definitely lift that as long as you have weight on the 3pt hitch. It's a well engineered tractor with some nice features.

Massey Ferguson 4707: for bigger jobs, this tractor (especially with the upgraded FL series loaders), is a dream. Loader is rated for 3,400lbs and is very smooth. With radial tires, rubber mounted cab, rubber floor, and air ride seat, this is the most comfortable tractor I've ever owned or operated. If you're digging with it, have a smaller bucket along with the standard larger one, to save the loader. Even though it's a stout loader for a farm/utility tractor, it's still a loader for a farm/utility tractor. The standard bucket is 83" (IIRC), but I also have an HD 66" bucket for digging into earth/piles. The smaller bucket allows me to stuff it and not worry about hurting the tractor or loader.

John Deere 410J: when even the 4707 won't do, I hop in the 410 and no matter what, it does the job. As smooth as the 4707 is while operating the loader, the 410 is on another level altogether. Its loader is rated for 7,000lbs and the drive system is silky smooth and easy to operate, as it should be, given that it's a yellow commercial piece of equipment and is priced as such.

Overall, I love the options I have at my disposal to do work on our farm. They are all kept under cover, too, so they don't get weathered.
 

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