Haying

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Nomad, We have discontinued all Turkish made implement sales as of about a year ago. Just want to be clear on that.--Ken Sweet )</font>

Ken, I knew that. My mistake, just an habit of typing. You had discontinued at the same time when I had discontinued to sell to USA. By the way, still wondering. Why had you discontinued to sell Turkish products? They are cursed or what? By the way, there is a rumor that, EXCEPT Agri-Supply, all other implement importers are about to stop importing the implements from Turkey. True? If this happens, Agri-Supply can be a monopole in the implement market of USA because the others will be unable to compete them ASC due to larger profit room in Turkish implements.

 

[sweettractors]

<font color="blue">By the way, still wondering. Why had you discontinued to sell Turkish products? They are cursed or what? </font>

Of course, they are not cursed. We have seen no widespread USA penetration of the products and support for parts is limited to a small handful of importers. This makes us feel uncomfortable in selling a product that is not yet widley accepted.--Ken Sweet

Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *Foodplot Implements, Feeds,Seeds and Supplies*

 

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue">By the way, still wondering. Why had you discontinued to sell Turkish products? They are cursed or what? </font>

Of course, they are not cursed. We have seen no widespread USA penetration of the products and support for parts is limited to a small handful of importers. This makes us feel uncomfortable in selling a product that is not yet widley accepted.--Ken Sweet
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You must be right since you are more knowledgable about the market there. But, there is a simple rule valid everywhere; The more risk The more profit room. Some invests on that.

 

[sweettractors]

<font color="blue"> The more risk The more profit room. </font>

I cant disagree with that, nomad. We do not operate under that business model. Our company chooses to not expose our customers to products that have not been proven, over time, to be viable for cost,durability,quality and support for our customer base. This way of doing business has worked well for our company for 29 years.--Ken Sweet

Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *Wildlife Foodplot Development Implements,Seed,Feed and Supplies*

 

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> The more risk The more profit room. </font>

I cant disagree with that, nomad. We do not operate under that business model. Our company chooses to not expose our customers to products that have not been proven, over time, to be viable for cost,durability,quality and support for our customer base. This way of doing business has worked well for our company for 29 years.--Ken Sweet
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Does this mean that you have never sold any new item to the market? What if someones here or there invent/developed a new implement? Since it will not be a proven item "over time" in the market you will not sell any newly invented/developed item? Lets not think about those poor quality Turkish products (hay rakes, etc) only. Consider, for example, a new item introduced by First Choice or Buy Smart made in Italy. There is risk in such an item too.

 

[sweettractors]

<font color="blue"> What if someones here or there invent/developed a new implement? Since it will not be a proven item "over time" in the market you will not sell any newly invented/developed item? </font>

Our process is to put a new product on Our own 300 acre farm and test it under adverse conditions. Phase 2 would be to let employees, close friends or neighbors try to find the faults of the product. While doing this, we give feedback to the Mfgr about our findings and suggestions for making the machine viable. Usually, If anything major comes up, the Mfgr sends a Representive to our location to see first hand what needs to be modified and then goes back to the "Drawing Board". This process works well for us on all new products that we sell.--Ken Sweet





Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *Custom Decals, Signs, Graphics and Truck and SUV Accessories *

 

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> What if someones here or there invent/developed a new implement? Since it will not be a proven item "over time" in the market you will not sell any newly invented/developed item? </font>

Our process is to put a new product on Our own 300 acre farm and test it under adverse conditions. Phase 2 would be to let employees, close friends or neighbors try to find the faults of the product. While doing this, we give feedback to the Mfgr about our findings and suggestions for making the machine viable. Usually, If anything major comes up, the Mfgr sends a Representive to our location to see first hand what needs to be modified and then goes back to the "Drawing Board". This process works well for us on all new products that we sell.--Ken Sweet
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Ken, if you are doing such "real field" tests of new items there, then these "new" items are being manufactured by relatively smaller factories with relatively poorer facilities. Well equipped manufacturers with their own "real field" tests do their own tests in their own field, they don't leave these works to the dealers. However, if you are collobrating with the manufacturers in doing their own tests in your field, I can understand. But, as far as I know, more than 70% of your products are import products (mainly from Italy) and you don't have direct contact with manufacturers abroad. If you are doing those test together with the manufacturers abroad direct, then what are First Choice and your other importer suppliers doing? They are only processing some import paperworks? Maybe, you are informing First Choice and the others to make the modifications for the major problems you face with the "new" items and these importers are feedback-ing the info to the manufacturers? Anyway, still appreciating your efforts however you are doing. By the way, a question; Considering your sale volume that is big, wondering why you have never imported the products direct.

 

[sweettractors]

<font color="blue"> "new" items are being manufactured by relatively smaller factories with relatively poorer facilities </font>

This is not the case. In the last few years, our company has discontinued selected products from Large Mfgrs in Turkey, China, Italy,Chezh Republic and also 1 USA Mfgr. We give all products a equal opportunity to prove themselves and "Cull" the weaker ones. We find products that were designed for the EU or the country of origin, usually need some modifications to satisify our customers needs.--Ken Sweet

Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *Over 30 Used Cultipackers in Stock (3 ft to 14 ft)*

 

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( our company has discontinued selected products from Large Mfgrs in Turkey, China, Italy,Chezh Republic and also 1 USA Mfgr. )</font>

Possibly, you have done that to the products from Mfgs in those countries. But, are you sure about Turkey? If it was not Uzel (Mfg of MF tractors here, distributed by Agco there), there is no "large" farm machinery mfg in Turkey. There are tousands of farm machinery/implement Mfgs here, but almost all of them are small size mfgs, and only a few of them medium size at most. If you are talking about sickle bar, hay rake, etc you have discontinued, they are being manufactured by small Mfgs. Maybe, those products were somethings else, such as tractor parts and other industrial items?

 

[HayDR]

Nomad,
Uzel and AGCO are no longer shipping UZEL tractors to North America. Massey has replaced the Uzel's tractors with Brazilian made tractors. The word is Uzel is not in the best financial position. Nomad, Why don't you try to sell Sweettractors some of the Seeds grown in Turkey since are looking like a feed store these days.