Hawse Fairlead

Deerlope · Jan 14, 2008

I need to buy a winch for my RTV and I need to know the difference between a roller fairlead and Hawse fairlead. Could someone please explain the difference in the two? What situations would one be better over the other.

MrJimi · Jan 14, 2008

Good question. I have seen both and I did a search and my results were one has rollers and the other don't. I would definitely want rollers.
Jim

Skipholiday · Jan 14, 2008

MrJimi · Jan 14, 2008

Skip, I hope I don't make it on your ignore list but I found this link that may explain that the non roller is $42 bucks and the roller is $115 bucks.
I would still get the roller for the extra $$ and have a way to wind cable on winch level. If your pulling at an angle it will all go on the same place on winch.
enjoy this link
Here on both
Jim

TWO GUNS · Jan 14, 2008

Mr. Jimi,
Ebay has 'em all the time (Warn Fairleads ) much cheaper everyday....
Just took a look, and ran across one instantly ...
Item # : 320205286804

Right now, it's going for $ 25.00, but of course, you will have to bid on it.
I purchased one for one of my boys last month for 36.00 plus 8.00 shipping..
$ 115.00 is crazy, but , it's your money ~~~~~

Skipholiday · Jan 14, 2008

MrJimi said:
Skip, I hope I don't make it on your ignore list

No worries Jim. Only a couple that know more than they really do made the cut so far.
Excellent feature tho, they can't send your pm's and you don't see the useless post.

learstroker · Jan 15, 2008

roller for cable, hawse for synthetic winch line

RollTideRam · Jan 15, 2008

A roller fairlead protects the cable more on angle pulls. They will both allow the cable to pile up on one side if you are not careful. If it happens, just pull some cable out and get it straight. A hard pull on bunched up cable will end the cable quicker. You need the hawse on your winch if using a rope. I have even seen plastic hawse fairleads on rock climbing buggies. JC

TOMMYHPX4X4 · Jan 15, 2008

go with the roller fairlead anything that drags something across it will always build up friction and friction causes heat and that tears up stuff. keep the rollers lubed up with some spray on lithium grease. the hawse is really only good to me if your pulling straight on and in most cases your not that lucky to have a striaght on pull when your stuck.

RobJ · Jan 15, 2008

learstroker said:
roller for cable, hawse for synthetic winch line

When I bought my 8000# Ramsey back in 1990 it came with a hawse head and steel cable. I think that was before the synthetic line was out OR popular. I least at the time I never heard of it then. I still have the hawse because in about 20 years I only use the winch about 5 times. I don't take real chances!!

For my ATV's I did buy a cheap roller off ebay.

A couple links to the multi mount system I built for my atv;s

Good Luck,
Rob

Suzuki - King Quad -MultiMount Winch System

2002 Honda Rancher - MultiMount Winch System

TWO GUNS · Jan 16, 2008

TOMMYHPX4X4 said:
go with the roller fairlead anything that drags something across it will always build up friction and friction causes heat and that tears up stuff. keep the rollers lubed up with some spray on lithium grease. the hawse is really only good to me if your pulling straight on and in most cases your not that lucky to have a striaght on pull when your stuck.

I agree with Tommy,
Rollers are the ONLY WAY TO GO !!!!

I have never been lucky enough to winch straight ahead like folks show on advertisments ~~~~~

learstroker · Jan 16, 2008

200 feet of synthetic line

TWO GUNS · Jan 16, 2008

learstroker

Like that winch, who makes it & where did you purchase it from ????

Looks Great !!!!

TOMMYHPX4X4 · Jan 16, 2008

thats one huge winch. it' looks hydraulic so what weight can it pull? and do you have to worry about the rope at the bottom of the spool rotting or corroding from never being unspooled . you can pull up to the beach with that thing and sharpin up the hook put some meat on toss it out there then jump in that nice cab pop the top to a cold one and go fishin bota style.lol

learstroker · Jan 16, 2008

its a 5400 lb hyd. mile marker. It can work underwater. It can go front or back. Its from Winches Plus. A hard point or dead man where I am is often difficult to find. There isn't a tree within 200 miles. Usually I have to use a pullpal, find a hummock and dig to permafrost ice. I even have extensions to go on the end of the already available 200 feet of synthetic (will not rot) line. Ice covered river crossings sometimes mean winching from the far shore.

Skipholiday · Jan 16, 2008

Hawse fairlead is best for synthetic cable.
Where the side and top rollers meet the synthetic ropes are subject to get pinched. Synthetic ropes flatten out when stretched and the cables stay rounded.
The aluminum hawse fairleads are very smooth.
The roller fairlead will work with either cable. The hawse should only be used with synthetic rope.

TOMMYHPX4X4 · Jan 16, 2008

$10,000.00 dollar winch and some $50.00 tires whgats wronge with this picture ??man get you some 589's . just messin with ya.lol no but when you gonna get some nice tires for the snow and mud like them 589's.it looks like you got an rtv1100 right? you got a nice winch i shure would like to have that setup .i'm lookin at a warn winch they sell at lowes i think it's 3600lbs for 369.00 it's built nice .

learstroker said:
its a 5400 lb hyd. mile marker. It can work underwater. It can go front or back. Its from Winches Plus. A hard point or dead man where I am is often difficult to find. There isn't a tree within 200 miles. Usually I have to use a pullpal, find a hummock and dig to permafrost ice. I even have extensions to go on the end of the already available 200 feet of synthetic (will not rot) line. Ice covered river crossings sometimes mean winching from the far shore.

learstroker · Jan 17, 2008

next picture will have tracks

Deerlope · Jan 17, 2008

Its a nice winch but the RTV needs to be running to use it. That is the big draw back of as many have found out. A electric winch can be rigged to attach to the deadman and cable out to the machine, Take the battery out and power up the winch.

TOMMYHPX4X4 · Jan 17, 2008

that would be one downside to the winch but on the otherhand the hydraulic winch will outlast an electric one . i know when i have used my electric winch and had to pull a far distance it ran my battery down even with my hpx running . thats why i had to add an extra battery i felt that the charging system and alternator output just wasn't there to keep up with it. after i added the second battery i stopped getting blown fuses on the charging system before the battery was added and i used the winch i would have to shut off my lights (headlights) and run the winch . like you said deerlope for the hydraulics to work the engine would have to be running so that would be a very!very !big proglem if stuck and the engine died.there are 12 volt electric pumps you can probably get well i know you can get but they would only last for so long and i wouldn't recomend it with a single battery system but it would be a good backup to have a aux pump to work the winch if the motor died.