handy dandy doo dad
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The boy at the septic tank place told me to be very careful handling that thirty five hundred pound five hundred gallon tank. "Break it if'n you want" he said. "It's yours".
So I whupped up a quicky that worked on the same principle as the professionals use. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BTW digging four hundred foot of septic trench and setting two five hundred tanks is work. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
So I whupped up a quicky that worked on the same principle as the professionals use. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BTW digging four hundred foot of septic trench and setting two five hundred tanks is work. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Junkman
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Back East, they will set it in the hole for you if it is ready when the truck arrives. For that reason, no one ever orders on before the hole is ready. Mine is a 1250 gallon tank and I know that I wouldn't want to handle that monster..... not to mention that the top is 15 feet below the ground surface. When I built my house, I said that I wanted the septic pipe to be below the cellar floor.... Since the back yard sloped away from the house at the time, it was only about 10 feet down.... since then, we did some major removal of the hills around the house and built up the back yard so it was usable land....hence the 15' septic tank. You should see the honey wagon operators face when he comes to pump it. If looks could kill, I would have to be a cat with 9 lives!!!!!!
bgott
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Isn't that called a "strongback "?
I knew right away it was a spreader, but what I actually saw in the background was that truck body with the twin propane/butane tanks, and figured what you needed was a spreader to handle them. I couldn't figure the little pipes on the ends of the vertical rods because I figured you'd use hooks, but then I figured you just used whatever you happened to have on the back of your truck.
But, when I saw how you actually used it, you were redeemed in my eyes - those chain guides were exactly what you wanted, not just what you happened to have!
Your heart musta gone up into your throat a little, when that top pipe started bending!
But, when I saw how you actually used it, you were redeemed in my eyes - those chain guides were exactly what you wanted, not just what you happened to have!
Your heart musta gone up into your throat a little, when that top pipe started bending!
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I think in this case. "The Handy Dandy Doo Dad" isn't necessarily, the actual item. I think it's Harv himself !!
I can see where he could be one of those, "Handy Dandy Doo Dads to have around. The All in One Shop Tool. We call it the "Harv".
When all thought and ideas escape you. You just whip out your trusty dependable Harv and a solution is at hand.
He drills and cut's, hammer's and saw's, chops and welds. The greatest little gadget know to man.
And Don't You Wanna Know Where To Get one.
The "Harv" will be available soon at you local TSC. All right and royalties are property of the TBN.
Neet piece of work Harv, thats what I call thinking on your feet.
I can see where he could be one of those, "Handy Dandy Doo Dads to have around. The All in One Shop Tool. We call it the "Harv".
When all thought and ideas escape you. You just whip out your trusty dependable Harv and a solution is at hand.
He drills and cut's, hammer's and saw's, chops and welds. The greatest little gadget know to man.
And Don't You Wanna Know Where To Get one.
The "Harv" will be available soon at you local TSC. All right and royalties are property of the TBN.
Neet piece of work Harv, thats what I call thinking on your feet.
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wroughtn_harv
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Morning Don,
The pipe lasted one tank. I replaced it with a chunk of I beam for the next tank. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
It was really sorta kewl at the septic shop. Two kids in their late twenties maybe who were staring at the clock wanting quitting time to get there sooner rather than later. They really didn't have time for an old phart that talked too much.
But when the old phart explained how old wagon wheels were once made by blacksmiths they decided he was cool enough to share all their knowledge on septic systems with. Seems one of the young men was building his own custom car even down to wanting to cast his own center caps for his wheels.
Quittin' time came and went and the generation gap was bridged. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Funny how making things talk can do so much more than make things.
They had a truck for deliveries but that is a service they reserve for septic system contractors. Good old boy service is BYOT (bring your own trailer). The problem with handling the tanks is they are two inch wall thickness and concrete.
This is for a bud so we're doing it on the cheap. The most effective and reasonably priced help is usually bud help. Yesterday was a full one. There was one moment when the pucker string stretched thin enough to be mistaken for spider silk. I was real careful to align the corners of the septic fields for minimum hand shovel work. It happens that way when the tractor operator is also the square point specialist. I lined up the Cat 416B for the intersection and didn't kick the shuttle shift into neutral. Soooooooo when I kicked the throttle to max to put down the stifflegs we got a ride for about five feet, right into the trench with one rear wheel.
I carry a spare change of clothes in the truck just for those occasions. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The pipe lasted one tank. I replaced it with a chunk of I beam for the next tank. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
It was really sorta kewl at the septic shop. Two kids in their late twenties maybe who were staring at the clock wanting quitting time to get there sooner rather than later. They really didn't have time for an old phart that talked too much.
But when the old phart explained how old wagon wheels were once made by blacksmiths they decided he was cool enough to share all their knowledge on septic systems with. Seems one of the young men was building his own custom car even down to wanting to cast his own center caps for his wheels.
Quittin' time came and went and the generation gap was bridged. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Funny how making things talk can do so much more than make things.
They had a truck for deliveries but that is a service they reserve for septic system contractors. Good old boy service is BYOT (bring your own trailer). The problem with handling the tanks is they are two inch wall thickness and concrete.
This is for a bud so we're doing it on the cheap. The most effective and reasonably priced help is usually bud help. Yesterday was a full one. There was one moment when the pucker string stretched thin enough to be mistaken for spider silk. I was real careful to align the corners of the septic fields for minimum hand shovel work. It happens that way when the tractor operator is also the square point specialist. I lined up the Cat 416B for the intersection and didn't kick the shuttle shift into neutral. Soooooooo when I kicked the throttle to max to put down the stifflegs we got a ride for about five feet, right into the trench with one rear wheel.
I carry a spare change of clothes in the truck just for those occasions. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Harv I was digging out an old drainage ditch for the f-i-l.
4' deep topsoil and about 6" of water on top of all of it (equal about 4.5' of mashed potato consistency MUD).
It was SO bad I had to turn the hoe around w/ the hoe pull myself past the next area then turn back around w/ the hoe and dig the next 20'.
500' took 15 hours because they were AFRAID of putting the D6C in there to pull me along.
I had a couple of riders until the first turn around then everybody stated clear of the bucking Deere.
I have to put in 2000 gal septic tanks.
They are cast in top 1/2 and bottom 1/2 ,about 15,000# each.
One job this summer is on a really steep slope, had 3/4" rain earlier in the day.
I told the precast people to send a super boom so they could stay by the house where it is flat.
They send a super short boom and the driver says NO problem I can get down that slope.
He got a run and headed down the hill back wards, everything was fine til he turned to go across the slope.
One of the fisrt times I saw a truck get STUCK going downhill.
All I had was the SSL so I tried to get him to set off 1/2 the tank and put the other one on sideways over the tandems since the front end was buried.
The driver ended up calling another super boom (longer reach), they thought the second truck w/ winch cound pull the other one back more but he could only shake the first truck.
After some pacing off the area, the first truck unloaded and set the tank back as far uphill as he could reach .
The second truck set up by the house on flat ground and grabbed each 1/2 and set them in.
I had to ask WHY didn't the other truck bring them in the first place.
Another hour of me pushing w/ SSL and the other truck's winch and he was out.
Don't u love it when a 1/2 hour job turns into an all-nighter.
Harv have u ever had a septic tank float?
4' deep topsoil and about 6" of water on top of all of it (equal about 4.5' of mashed potato consistency MUD).
It was SO bad I had to turn the hoe around w/ the hoe pull myself past the next area then turn back around w/ the hoe and dig the next 20'.
500' took 15 hours because they were AFRAID of putting the D6C in there to pull me along.
I had a couple of riders until the first turn around then everybody stated clear of the bucking Deere.
I have to put in 2000 gal septic tanks.
They are cast in top 1/2 and bottom 1/2 ,about 15,000# each.
One job this summer is on a really steep slope, had 3/4" rain earlier in the day.
I told the precast people to send a super boom so they could stay by the house where it is flat.
They send a super short boom and the driver says NO problem I can get down that slope.
He got a run and headed down the hill back wards, everything was fine til he turned to go across the slope.
One of the fisrt times I saw a truck get STUCK going downhill.
All I had was the SSL so I tried to get him to set off 1/2 the tank and put the other one on sideways over the tandems since the front end was buried.
The driver ended up calling another super boom (longer reach), they thought the second truck w/ winch cound pull the other one back more but he could only shake the first truck.
After some pacing off the area, the first truck unloaded and set the tank back as far uphill as he could reach .
The second truck set up by the house on flat ground and grabbed each 1/2 and set them in.
I had to ask WHY didn't the other truck bring them in the first place.
Another hour of me pushing w/ SSL and the other truck's winch and he was out.
Don't u love it when a 1/2 hour job turns into an all-nighter.
Harv have u ever had a septic tank float?
ScottAR
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With TSC's "may not match catalog" policy, one might end up with a "slappy" that's never seen a septic tank, much less put one in. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
<font color="blue"> Two kids in their late twenties maybe who were staring at the clock wanting quitting time to get there sooner rather than later. They really didn't have time for an old phart that talked too much...Quittin' time came and went and the generation gap was bridged. Funny how making things talk can do so much more than make things.
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Yep. Kids think all the old phartz wear yellow pants and drive Mercury Grand Marquis's slow in the left lane. 'Course, I kinda think that myself, not yet seeing myself as old, even though I'm older than most of those folks who think the car is going to flip over if they go around a corner at more than 3 MPH.
They're usually kinda surprised when they learn that I actually like their hydraulically-powered dancing suspensions or some such - or more properly, that I like the effort and ingenuity that they put into it, knowing how much good it's going to do for them some day to have that experience! Having done some pointless things in my own far distant youth, I try to encourage them no matter what.
Having run a Cat 416, I mentally went along with you on that short ride, and didn't like how it felt. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
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Yep. Kids think all the old phartz wear yellow pants and drive Mercury Grand Marquis's slow in the left lane. 'Course, I kinda think that myself, not yet seeing myself as old, even though I'm older than most of those folks who think the car is going to flip over if they go around a corner at more than 3 MPH.
They're usually kinda surprised when they learn that I actually like their hydraulically-powered dancing suspensions or some such - or more properly, that I like the effort and ingenuity that they put into it, knowing how much good it's going to do for them some day to have that experience! Having done some pointless things in my own far distant youth, I try to encourage them no matter what.
Having run a Cat 416, I mentally went along with you on that short ride, and didn't like how it felt. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
Slamfire
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It started to rain, just as the backhoe man called for the tank at my place. And was slicker 'n you know when he got here. The hoe pulled the truck into position, and me 'n my little OC-3 pulled him back out. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Harv around here you can put in 2 well tiles on small housholds for a septic system and alot of hunting clubs use them. I got so ired of having to get in the hole by myself when installing them and not having a a good place to chain them so i built a doo dad that looks like a spreader bar and has an air brake pancake on the ends that run a moveable jaw. i set it over the halves and release that air to them and im attached. I can then set the sections in the hole from the hoe seat. the spreader bar part has then ends capped to act as a tank and it also has a small air compressor tank on it. I can handle 7 sections before refilling the tank and the usual jobs only needs 2 sections. As for old Pharts, most of my friends are in that category and 90 percent of my knowlege is from them lol.
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don't ya just hate when ya leave the hoe in gear, spin around and pull her open to drop the stabilizers....... did it one day behind my house, dropped a wheel into the trench, the managed to hook the front bucket behind a tree....... kinda hard on the tree, and it made for one fun ride lol.....
course that's no worse the redoing our shop driveway, and back dragin the stone with our old JD crawler.. i dropped the blade(6") from the shop wall, pulled the float valve and started to back up..... had it in 3rd gear, and forgot to flip the reverser.... ya shoulda seen the look on my old man's face when i stoped 1/2" from the corner board. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
course that's no worse the redoing our shop driveway, and back dragin the stone with our old JD crawler.. i dropped the blade(6") from the shop wall, pulled the float valve and started to back up..... had it in 3rd gear, and forgot to flip the reverser.... ya shoulda seen the look on my old man's face when i stoped 1/2" from the corner board. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Taylortractornut
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Ive done the same thing with an old trackloader loading gravel in the pit but had a hand clutch rod brake and ran over a new F600 Ford dump truck of the counties before i could kill it.
Iremeber when i was about 5 dad had come in from a month on the road with a dirt moving company he was a foreman and operator for and had to dig up a a trench down the 2 acres where the yard was. Whwhen the folks that originlly owned the lot had the place cleared they buried all the logs in the yards and they had undermined and cause a nice thing of suprize sink holes. Dad brought a 580 Case home and dug a hole the the entire reach of the machine, Meanwhile brother came in off the same job and dad put him to work on the hoe. He was about 19 and a good sized fella then. He reached back and idled the hoe up and stood up to turn the seat around when he walked back to sit down the strap of his overalls caught the shuttle and pulled it in reverse. he was head right for the hole standing up finally he dropped the out riggers and stopped the machine. I can still remeber that day well.
When i first started running a hoe dad brought one home and I was about 12 or so and we had a new satellite dish that was a pos. Dad told me to get a scoop of gravel and I went to the pile sgot gravel backed up then cut my wheels the opposite way and took off. Id forgotten about the extra part on the back lol wiped out the dish.
MY ford hoe has a bad centering spring in the left rear out rigger that causes the out rigger to deploy whilst trveling now so till i fix it Ill have to watch out working around cars and buildings lol.
Iremeber when i was about 5 dad had come in from a month on the road with a dirt moving company he was a foreman and operator for and had to dig up a a trench down the 2 acres where the yard was. Whwhen the folks that originlly owned the lot had the place cleared they buried all the logs in the yards and they had undermined and cause a nice thing of suprize sink holes. Dad brought a 580 Case home and dug a hole the the entire reach of the machine, Meanwhile brother came in off the same job and dad put him to work on the hoe. He was about 19 and a good sized fella then. He reached back and idled the hoe up and stood up to turn the seat around when he walked back to sit down the strap of his overalls caught the shuttle and pulled it in reverse. he was head right for the hole standing up finally he dropped the out riggers and stopped the machine. I can still remeber that day well.
When i first started running a hoe dad brought one home and I was about 12 or so and we had a new satellite dish that was a pos. Dad told me to get a scoop of gravel and I went to the pile sgot gravel backed up then cut my wheels the opposite way and took off. Id forgotten about the extra part on the back lol wiped out the dish.
MY ford hoe has a bad centering spring in the left rear out rigger that causes the out rigger to deploy whilst trveling now so till i fix it Ill have to watch out working around cars and buildings lol.
dieselsmoke1
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We've gotten a little off topic, but what the heck, I'll add my story.
I was clearing a constuction lot with a hard working albeit very hardheaded helper and an old WAIN-ROY loader/hoe (why do I think no one here has heard of them?)
We piled the trees and brush, added a few gallons of diesel and lit it up.
The old girl had a clutch pack reversing transmision with tourqe converter and leaked a little ATF. No big deal, always kept some in the truck, except today I'm out. Now when the fluid got a little low, the forward pack would still engage, but the reversing pack wouldn't.
I gave my helper very specific instructions, "Stay here with the fire and watch it , and DO NOT use the loader to bunch the fire. It WILL NOT back up. I'll be right back with some tranny fluid."
When I got back, my inept helper had done exactly opposite of my instructions, the old girl was parked on top of hot coals, pinned up against the pile, tires smoking, paint burning, ATF and hydraulic fluid residue heating and dripping down into the fire. A roman candle waiting to happen.
I threw a chain around the backhoe bucket and drug it out of the fire with my 4wd pickup.
The old girl survived, and still had the scorch marks on her till she was retired. The helper was lucky I didn't throw him in the fire!
I was clearing a constuction lot with a hard working albeit very hardheaded helper and an old WAIN-ROY loader/hoe (why do I think no one here has heard of them?)
We piled the trees and brush, added a few gallons of diesel and lit it up.
The old girl had a clutch pack reversing transmision with tourqe converter and leaked a little ATF. No big deal, always kept some in the truck, except today I'm out. Now when the fluid got a little low, the forward pack would still engage, but the reversing pack wouldn't.
I gave my helper very specific instructions, "Stay here with the fire and watch it , and DO NOT use the loader to bunch the fire. It WILL NOT back up. I'll be right back with some tranny fluid."
When I got back, my inept helper had done exactly opposite of my instructions, the old girl was parked on top of hot coals, pinned up against the pile, tires smoking, paint burning, ATF and hydraulic fluid residue heating and dripping down into the fire. A roman candle waiting to happen.
I threw a chain around the backhoe bucket and drug it out of the fire with my 4wd pickup.
The old girl survived, and still had the scorch marks on her till she was retired. The helper was lucky I didn't throw him in the fire!
dieselsmoke1
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Was the tractor part a David Brown or other prime mover. )</font>
She was a concocted mish mash of parts from all over. Had a 4 cyl Ford gas engine, the front wheels were from a Ford ton truck. Seems like the reversing tranny was an Eaton. When I broke the center out of a rear rim I found a replacement on a junked Minneapolis Moline combine. The hydraulic pump was front mounted crankshaft driven, don't remember the brand.
I got my degree in Creative Equipment Repair with this old gal /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
She was a concocted mish mash of parts from all over. Had a 4 cyl Ford gas engine, the front wheels were from a Ford ton truck. Seems like the reversing tranny was an Eaton. When I broke the center out of a rear rim I found a replacement on a junked Minneapolis Moline combine. The hydraulic pump was front mounted crankshaft driven, don't remember the brand.
I got my degree in Creative Equipment Repair with this old gal /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
