Got the tractor stuck...

[sodamo]

Getting stuck is just part of the learning curve..

I used to get mine stuck regularly. My wife has pulled me out with our jeeps and 4x pickups. One time I had to get my neighbor and his tractor.

Nowadays, if I think I'll get stuck, I'll wait for it to dry more. Last time, I had my flail mower mounted and my backend slid into the fence at the near bottom of the hill. my wife still gives me grief over that one.

Wish I had the pics for this, but somehow they got deleted. I have a neighbor that bought a used dozer a couple months ago. It is a Cat, but built for the navy, single ram 4 way on front, I think it is probably a track loader, but what do I know. Forget the number, but neighbor says it is about size of a D7. It is tall! He hired a couple of experienced guys to do some clearing with it while he was on the mainland for business. For reasons unknown these guys take the dozer toward one of the streams on the property. Oh, Btw, this is still rainy season. So these guys get the dozer stuck and have to abandon it about 2 weeks ago. This past weekend my neighbor invited a few of us over for a look-see, hoping we might come up with a plan. This dozer is sitting at the bottom of a fairly steep, muddy hill. Dozer sits at an angle with the right rear track submerged in muck upto to bottom of the engine compartment. Did I mention there standing water in the muddy footsteps? The largest tree within sight might be 3 inches. The hill across the stream to front of dozer is even steeper. To be honest, I refused to take my Ck30 with backhoe down to help dig him out because I KNOW Id get it stuck. As I type this, there is no solution in place, it has rained an inch since midnight.

UPDATE: got neighbors wife to send me her pics. Any thoughts? She took these on a dry day. BTW, this weighs 44000 lbs.

 

[Johndeere3720]

When i had my 16 hp Yanmar with R1's I never got stuck, I came close a few times, but it never needed any help out (didn't have a FEL either). I traded up to a 61 hp Deere skid steer a few months ago and I knew I was gonna get stuck. It weighs around 7000 lbs, all of that weigh on the 10x16.5 tires does give you traction but if you get too much traction it will easily bury itself. I came close one time working around an old burn pile but a few weeks later I was pushing up stumps around one of the burn piles and it just started to sink. I tried the bucket trick to push myself out but with a pile of manure behind me and a burn pile in front I had nowhere to go. So We tried pulling it out with the 4x4 pickup. That just spun its tires and threw mud everywhere. In the end we had to use the pickup to move as stump out of the way, use a shovel to dig out a path to get out, put logs and posts under the tires, and tug for over an hour before we finally got it out. It was quite a mess, I got my nice clean skid steer all muddy (washed it the night before) and haven't washed it since. It is due for another cleaning soon, maybe if it stops raining I can get the chance and wash the dried mud off of it along with all the dust in the cab. I can say that when I got stuck, I was nowhere close to running out of power, I didn't even have it at full throttle (3000 rpm 61 hp), instead i was at 2400 rpm (around 40 hp).:thumbsup:

 

[ritcheyvs]

The trick in my experience is to cut a drainage channel to help things dry out.

 

[IronHog]

Well, again I have to disagree, even the "real" tractors are now rated by engine hp instead of PTO hp. The DK90 would be a case in point.

Again, yes, your other points about clearance and tire size are true, but the OP's CK20 has ample power to spin 3 wheels with no problem, that's kinda what got him in the mess in the first place. Being from Ottawa and growing up in the snow, the one thing I know is when your tires start spinning, power is not your friend. We used to change from 1st to 2nd or even 3rd gear went stuck in snow to try and gently move without spinning.

Never driven a DK90 but our 2wd farm tractors will rather easily transverse ground that will stick our DK 40..... in 4wd.... with the diff locked.


A CUT is designed for the small land owner to FEL, grade, mow, light tilling etc......... they just don't have the traction of machines designed to pull heavy farm implements......

 

[IndyIan]

Never driven a DK90 but our 2wd farm tractors will rather easily transverse ground that will stick our DK 40..... in 4wd.... with the diff locked.


A CUT is designed for the small land owner to FEL, grade, mow, light tilling etc......... they just don't have the traction of machines designed to pull heavy farm implements......

You must have some interesting wet spots or interesting 2wd tractors?
I've got to assume the DK40 has turf or industrial tires on it? And you've got some sort of 70-80hp 2wd tractor with dual unloaded rears and no loader? I could see that "floating" better on turf over bottomless mud.

I guess in my case I've backed up 20% wet clay soil slopes with the loader full of dirt... Show me a 2wd tractor that can do that? Or drive down a similar slope on snow and ice with a round bale of the front and then back up the slope.
I think for their weight a 4wd CUT does lift and pull more than a full size 2wd tractor, but obviously 10000lbs with 100hp is going to do more work in a field than 40hp in 5000lbs driving 2 or 4 wheels.

 

[IronHog]

You must have some interesting wet spots or interesting 2wd tractors?
I've got to assume the DK40 has turf or industrial tires on it? And you've got some sort of 70-80hp 2wd tractor with dual unloaded rears and no loader? I could see that "floating" better on turf over bottomless mud.

I guess in my case I've backed up 20% wet clay soil slopes with the loader full of dirt... Show me a 2wd tractor that can do that? Or drive down a similar slope on snow and ice with a round bale of the front and then back up the slope.
I think for their weight a 4wd CUT does lift and pull more than a full size 2wd tractor, but obviously 10000lbs with 100hp is going to do more work in a field than 40hp in 5000lbs driving 2 or 4 wheels.

Our 50 HP 2 wd industrail/ag tractors will out perform any modern CUT of similar HP on any terrain. They'll pull 2.5 tons of saw logs or old row crop drag disks that would have a 4wd CUT spinning on top of the ground....


Of course they weigh 5K (no FEL's) and are 80 inches wide with 5 1/2 foot tall R2's too. Just a completely different class of machine, power, and design. And you need ear plugs, long pants, and boots on to run one too........

 

[kiotiken]

Our 50 HP 2 wd industrail/ag tractors will out perform any modern CUT of similar HP on any terrain. They'll pull 2.5 tons of saw logs or old row crop drag disks that would have a 4wd CUT spinning on top of the ground....


Of course they weigh 5K (no FEL's) and are 80 inches wide with 5 1/2 foot tall R2's too. Just a completely different class of machine, power, and design. And you need ear plugs, long pants, and boots on to run one too........

Welcome to the Kioti forum, my 30 hp Kioti, with FEL, loaded tires, cab, bh comes in at 6500#. 5000# for a 50hp is a little more than the DK50, but not much. You're right that they don't make them like they used to, but not all tractors are created the same today, and some are more old school in the right ways than others. With the same tires, my money's on a DK50 over an old iron 50, 4wd will more than make up for a couple hundred pounds and 6 extra inches wide.

 

[IndyIan]

I guesstimate my tractor must be near 6k as well with loader and loaded rears, then add a 1k boxblade, and then scoop up 1500lbs of dirt. I guess it would pull alot then! but I imagine it could be a bit hard on the drivetrain.

For dragging big logs all day and field work I'm sure there are better machines for doing 1000's of hours of that.
For dinking around on my property doing what I'm doing, it seems to be working out pretty well and will probably do fine pulling 2000lb logs up and down my hills when I get to that, or plowing an acre here and there for food plots.
I agree its sort of a "toy" tractor but sort of the same way an F250 is "toy" truck. You can still get things done, just not on an commercial/industrial scale. I've pulled out 1500lb saw logs with my 300cc atv using an arch without breaking anything so if you're not in a hurry, you can do alot with a couple dozen hp, 4wd, and lots of gears in 700lbs...

 

[IronHog]

Welcome to the Kioti forum, my 30 hp Kioti, with FEL, loaded tires, cab, bh comes in at 6500#. 5000# for a 50hp is a little more than the DK50, but not much. You're right that they don't make them like they used to, but not all tractors are created the same today, and some are more old school in the right ways than others. With the same tires, my money's on a DK50 over an old iron 50, 4wd will more than make up for a couple hundred pounds and 6 extra inches wide.

A Perkins AD4-203 in a industrial tractor is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond a DK 50. Not even close.

 

[ritcheyvs]

All I know is my neighbors come to me (DK45S) when things get stuck and their farm tractors (one a Massey-Ferguson 135 and the other a 235) aren't up to the task. One time it was a school bus with flat tires and the another time it was a dump truck that couldn't get back up the hill.