Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic?

/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #41  
In my experience, horses don't like to walk over septic tanks, they can sense the hollow sound and feel. Same theory as a cattle guard.

Try walking a horse around your property and see if it reacts to a certain spot. We could ride the horses up to the edge of the septic tank and they would hesitate. If you spurred them, they would jump over the tank. Otherwise they would go around.

Interesting theory - but most people don't have horses. LOL.

TO op - everything is dead right now due it winter season right now. Either you noticed something with light coating of snow on ground or you noticed something in middle of summer with odd patch of poor square of grass. Thee other person advice on getting tank pumped is spot on. If it been 3 years or more since it was pumped last, I'd go out and get it pumped. They can do the dirty work of finding your tank. free --- well sorta, you still gotta pay for pumping. Have you called around a few septic tank pumpers for an "estimate"?
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #42  
Interesting theory - but most people don't have horses. LOL.

TO op - everything is dead right now due it winter season right now. Either you noticed something with light coating of snow on ground or you noticed something in middle of summer with odd patch of poor square of grass. Thee other person advice on getting tank pumped is spot on. If it been 3 years or more since it was pumped last, I'd go out and get it pumped. They can do the dirty work of finding your tank. free --- well sorta, you still gotta pay for pumping. Have you called around a few septic tank pumpers for an "estimate"?

My last one was over $300 plus extra if they have to dig it out. Extra agin if they have to cover it back up.

Harry K
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic?
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Interesting theory - but most people don't have horses. LOL.

TO op - everything is dead right now due it winter season right now. Either you noticed something with light coating of snow on ground or you noticed something in middle of summer with odd patch of poor square of grass. Thee other person advice on getting tank pumped is spot on. If it been 3 years or more since it was pumped last, I'd go out and get it pumped. They can do the dirty work of finding your tank. free --- well sorta, you still gotta pay for pumping. Have you called around a few septic tank pumpers for an "estimate"?

I do have horses BTW, they are just not as cooperative as I'd like, and this area is sloppy wet muddy, etc. The current nearest gate to the pasture is about 1/4 mile from the house...

We have not quite been here 2 years, and the little old lady who lived here alone for the last almost 6 had it pumped about a year before we moved in.

I'm going to have it pumped AFTER I find it... NOt paying extra unless I gotta...

David
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #44  
If you can get to the cleanout in the basement, you can run a snake down the drainpipe from the house to the tank. When it hits the tank baffle, you will know how far it is to the tank. Then you can bang it against the baffle and have someone outside listen to hear at that distance. That will give you the location.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #45  
I just paid $225 for a pump out
My tank has 2 lids not just one the tank has baffles in it
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #46  
The only advice I can give is find where the line exits the house and go to that area outside using a rod about 1/4 inch about 6 feet long with a handle welded tobit so it looks like a T start poking the ground till you hit it. That's the best way I can think of hope it helps! Just try not to poke through the pipe or tank!

This method will work. Take a gallon of water with you. Jab you rid in the ground and pour a little water in it. Now work in up and down. You can actually push a five foot rod in the ground using water as a lubricant. Find where your soil pipe exits the house and walk in a straight line from that point and probe every so many feet. Most lids have a iron rod hook on the lid that can be found with a metal detector as well.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #47  
My plumber has a video inspection tool that he uses to inspect sewer lines. The camera head emits a signal that can be located using another detector device. Once he sees views a pipe break with the in pipe camera, he goes outside and can pinpoint where the camera is using detector. It also tells him how deep the camera is. Pretty slick operation!
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #48  
That camera only works from the house to the tank or house to city sewer . That camera will not negotiate the T's and 90's in aliechfield. Most of them won't even try for fear of doing damage . Septic systems are a mystery of some sort to most people . The raw sewage comes from the house to the tank . The solids are controlled by baffles in the tank . From the the tank there is a liqui d discharge , going to the field . After that the field has to be able to handle the discharge of effluent , black water . If you do not have a big enough field or soil that perc's well it is not going to work .You should see the leads to the field as in greener grass or browner if you use the same detergent my wife uses .
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #49  
That camera only works from the house to the tank or house to city sewer . That camera will not negotiate the T's and 90's in aliechfield. Most of them won't even try for fear of doing damage . Septic systems are a mystery of some sort to most people . The raw sewage comes from the house to the tank . The solids are controlled by baffles in the tank . From the the tank there is a liqui d discharge , going to the field . After that the field has to be able to handle the discharge of effluent , black water . If you do not have a big enough field or soil that perc's well it is not going to work .You should see the leads to the field as in greener grass or browner if you use the same detergent my wife uses .

All he wanted in his original post to help to locate the septic tank, so the camera idea work.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #50  
Health dept here has the info, including a sketch with distances.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #51  
Health dept here has the info, including a sketch with distances.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #52  
get spool of wire that has 2 wires in cable. splice the 2 wires together on one end. and feed it through the "clean out" inside the house. get a metal detector. hopefully you can get a read of pipe direction or approx direction and if any turns.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #53  
When the first snow comes in the fall I get a nice melted round spot exactly over my clean out lid.
Have noticed same at many other properties as well.
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #54  
Divining rods. They work for me. I could find the lines, but probably couldn't distinguish the tank from the lines.

We've lived in WV for about the last 15 years, where the local land records are rather skimpy. It is not required that septic tanks be pumped, nor drain fields be inspected as part of a real estate sale. So, shortly after moving into our current residence about 7-8 years ago, I had a similar problem of trying to find our septic tank and drain field.

I'm not a youngster anymore. I was farily well educated in science. For the last 65 years, I have nearly always lived in very rural areas.

Until a few years ago, I never believed in dowsing or divining rods.

From the time I was a little kid, I tried them many times under good "tutelage" using everything from willow branches to electronic detectors.

Certainly, the electronic detectors are suitable for finding metal pipes and wiring. But, they weren't always right either. We had work done at a previous farm in Virginia, where I did most everything from the land clearing to the final occupancy inspection walk-thru.

Someone bought a few acres behind our property and needed "Miss Utility" to mark lines through our property. Since I did the trenches, driveways, etc., personally, and since I took daily pictures of all of it, I was pretty sure I knew exactly where everything was. The Miss Utility dude and I had quite a discussion about the location of a major underground line. A few days later, a backhoe arrives at the back of our farm and starts digging. Before I could get out there, he went through a 440-volt line that caused quite an explosion, and shut down the area for more than a day until they could replace a car-sized transformer.

So, to get back on track, I wanted to have the septic tank pumped where we now live. One Sunday, after our church service, I mentioned I was having trouble locating our septic tank. I was hoping one of the church-members/local-contractors might have installed the the system. No such luck. I was informed that the guy who did it was long gone.

However, another friend said he could easily find the lines and tank. He asked me if I had any heavy copper wire -- which I did. I thought "Oooh boy, now what have I gotten myself into?"

I had some #6 copper ground wire. He came over, and we made some L-shaped rods from the wire -- about 24-inches long, with 6-inch "handles." Starting within about two minutes of cutting and bending the rods, he pointed to where the sewage line left the house, where the septic tank was located, where the line went to the distribution box, and where the lines were located.

Rather skeptical, I got the backhoe, and started to dig where he told me to dig. With the second or third scrape, I hit the top of the tank, and a backhoe tooth caught the handle on the top of the septic tank lid. He had also traced where the drain field appears to be located (I've never been able to prove it,) but based on the tree line, he is probably right.

To this day, I'm still not a believer. The dowsing rods we made were left on the workbench outside my basement door. Based on how he showed me to use them, I tried them. First with my eyes open, then with my eyes closed. They worked.

I took them to the front yard where the well-line and electricity come to the house from our barn, and to where the underground wiring is located for a yard light. I closed my eyes and started to walk. I located everyone of them.

I repeated it from several directions, over several days. To me, this is still not believable, and it is explainable. I still don't believe, but ...

All I can say is, if you think it works, try it.

The copper rods hang outside my basement door, kind of like crossed swords from the middle ages.

I have found absolutely no scientific evidence that they should work, but, at least I found my septic tank and drain field.

I just hope Sasquatch wasn't watching, giggling in the bushes, and amending our results the whole time!:eek:

Knute
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #56  
David in the summer when it get's dry do you see or have notticed a perfect little square of dead grass in the yard if so that's it, mine does it about every year and also i might be wrong but check with the building inspector office and see if they have a platt or drawing of it. when they come out to inspect them they measure the distance from house and the fill lines and write it down, i would think they have a record of when it was inspected.
good luck with that one . i work for a twp and to find this out you mite better dig up the whole yard .if the house is any age at all your out of luck..
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #57  
We've lived in WV for about the last 15 years, where the local land records are rather skimpy. It is not required that septic tanks be pumped, nor drain fields be inspected as part of a real estate sale. So, shortly after moving into our current residence about 7-8 years ago, I had a similar problem of trying to find our septic tank and drain field.

I'm not a youngster anymore. I was farily well educated in science. For the last 65 years, I have nearly always lived in very rural areas.

Until a few years ago, I never believed in dowsing or divining rods.

From the time I was a little kid, I tried them many times under good "tutelage" using everything from willow branches to electronic detectors.

Certainly, the electronic detectors are suitable for finding metal pipes and wiring. But, they weren't always right either. We had work done at a previous farm in Virginia, where I did most everything from the land clearing to the final occupancy inspection walk-thru.

Someone bought a few acres behind our property and needed "Miss Utility" to mark lines through our property. Since I did the trenches, driveways, etc., personally, and since I took daily pictures of all of it, I was pretty sure I knew exactly where everything was. The Miss Utility dude and I had quite a discussion about the location of a major underground line. A few days later, a backhoe arrives at the back of our farm and starts digging. Before I could get out there, he went through a 440-volt line that caused quite an explosion, and shut down the area for more than a day until they could replace a car-sized transformer.

So, to get back on track, I wanted to have the septic tank pumped where we now live. One Sunday, after our church service, I mentioned I was having trouble locating our septic tank. I was hoping one of the church-members/local-contractors might have installed the the system. No such luck. I was informed that the guy who did it was long gone.

However, another friend said he could easily find the lines and tank. He asked me if I had any heavy copper wire -- which I did. I thought "Oooh boy, now what have I gotten myself into?"

I had some #6 copper ground wire. He came over, and we made some L-shaped rods from the wire -- about 24-inches long, with 6-inch "handles." Starting within about two minutes of cutting and bending the rods, he pointed to where the sewage line left the house, where the septic tank was located, where the line went to the distribution box, and where the lines were located.

Rather skeptical, I got the backhoe, and started to dig where he told me to dig. With the second or third scrape, I hit the top of the tank, and a backhoe tooth caught the handle on the top of the septic tank lid. He had also traced where the drain field appears to be located (I've never been able to prove it,) but based on the tree line, he is probably right.

To this day, I'm still not a believer. The dowsing rods we made were left on the workbench outside my basement door. Based on how he showed me to use them, I tried them. First with my eyes open, then with my eyes closed. They worked.

I took them to the front yard where the well-line and electricity come to the house from our barn, and to where the underground wiring is located for a yard light. I closed my eyes and started to walk. I located everyone of them.

I repeated it from several directions, over several days. To me, this is still not believable, and it is explainable. I still don't believe, but ...

All I can say is, if you think it works, try it.

The copper rods hang outside my basement door, kind of like crossed swords from the middle ages.

I have found absolutely no scientific evidence that they should work, but, at least I found my septic tank and drain field.

I just hope Sasquatch wasn't watching, giggling in the bushes, and amending our results the whole time!:eek:

Knute

lol good advice lol there are some out there that can make them work and some see others using them and tell every one they can do it to .. and they cant
 
/ Got any tips, trcks, secrets for finding the septic? #58  
Irma Bombeck: The Grass Grows Greener Over The Septic. :laughing:
 
 
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