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   / Good morning!!!! #122,541  
No birthday coming up Kyle already happened a while back

Went to town saw friends fawned over boats on the dock at Georgetown one day
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,542  
I feel your pain, Drew. Amazon and FedEx shipping rates are outrageous, especially considering how fuel prices have dropped over the past year. TBN is having a Black Friday sale, and I ordered a Pat's Quick Hitch. Shipping was "only" $20, but I bet all that steel weighs more than your bird house. These days I go to the post office first and see if what I have will fit into one of their flat rate boxes. It's a "if it fits, it ships" deal, and weight doesn't figger into it.

Drew there are 3 box sizes: USPS Flat Rate Box Sizes, Prices, and How it Works [Updated with 2;) Rates]| Shippo[varies]&msclkid=057420e269f618b4ba387f23e306e88f

Maybe you could make it so they screw or pin together, and ship them with some minor assembly required. the largest box is 12"X12"x5.5" and is $19.60 to ship.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,543  
47F and cloudy @ 17:30, appears that it did not rain today so things are drying up a bit. Should be even better tomorrow ... :thumbsup:

Got up about a few hours ago ... pulled another all-nighter last night doing research for the bathroom renovation and didn't get to bed until sometime around 08:00 this morning.

At some point during the day the slipcovers for the love seats, the Cambric fabric for the bottom of the sofa, and the Moultrie feeder were dropped off. Have to say I'm very disappointed in the fit and finish of Moultrie feeder ... the lid is seriously warped on both ends and the feeder itself seems bowed in around the opening at the top:

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I mean I get that it's a relatively cheap item ($20) ... but other companies seem to be able to manage to injection mold plastic and not have it turn out seriously deformed ... :confused2:

Still waiting on the slipcover for the couch and digital to analog converter to the TV.

After considering it a bit, I had been kind of leaning towards replacing the shower base.

The base that is in there is a cast base - probably made from some sort of acrylic or cement-like material - that was probably common at the time the house was constructed (around 1970) A company called Swanstone makes a very similar product today ... and the surface is peebled (irregular), so that it is not entirely slick.

The shape of it is referred to as a "Neo Angle", which is basically a square with one corner cut off and is therefore 5-sided.

Although I really need to check it further, it appears that it either there is a steel pan under it that it's sitting in (or was cast into) - or that steel was actually cast into it, as an integral part of it - in order to form lip/dam/catchment on all five sides that protrudes above the casting itself.

The steel is very heavily rusted at this point and I'm not real sure that it would actually prevent water from escaping:

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Mortar, grout, and even tile itself are not completely waterproof so I'm not inclined to trust them completely to avoid issues into the future.

Here's the problem I'm running into with replacing this shower floor/pan:

Today's designs of this Neo-Angle base are not intended to have walls on four sides - typically they have walls on two sides which the bases have a raised lip to accommodate, and the other three sides are enclosed with glass panels: two being fixed, and the third being the door.

I can't really do that because: 1. there's a 4" cast iron vent stack (that runs through the roof) in one of the short (length) walls and, 2. the other short wall contains the plumbing lines, valves, etc. The plumbing wouldn't be all that bad to relocate ... but there ain't no way I want to screw around relocating that cast vent stack even if I could ... and I'm not sure I can.

So if I want to replace the pan, I'd be looking at having a custom-built pan built ... which isn't cheap ($600 - $800 ... or more) There ain't no stock items out there that are made to work in this type of configuration (4 walls, one door)

While a custom-built pan would allow for tiling the floor - which would be a really nice thing to do, in terms of carrying through the overall look - it's more than I'd like to spend ... since there's plenty of other stuff I'd prefer to spend the $$$ on, on this project.

So what I'm faced with is refinishing the existing pan ... if I can come up with a solution to ensure that there is a watertight seal where the backer board meets the existing base.

I'll be using John Mansville GoBoard for the backer board, and Loctite PL S10 Polyurethane Concrete and Masonary Sealant on the joints and the screws on the GoBoard ... and assuming I can clean up the existing cast base, making the seal between the GoBoard and the base ... but I sure don't expect it to adhere to the rusty metal.

Additionally, there is a liquid rubber membrane waterproofing product these guys offer that I may use to coat the backer board on the walls and the ceiling before I start setting tile:

Shower Liquid Liner Waterproofing KBRS ShowerSeal(R) 1 Gal.

While one can see some evidence of black mold on the framing, it doesn't look to me as though it is all that bad. I'll treat it before I hang any backer board and start sealing things up. Doesn't appear that any of the framing lumber is rotted ... but I do have some concerns about the subfloor that I can see outside of the shower ... kinda makes me wonder what the subfloor under the shower pan looks like ... :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, the area below the shower pan (in the basement) has a drywall ceiling ... so there's no easy way of inspecting the subfloor short of tearing it out.

Any thoughts or insights into this dilemma and my proposed plan of action would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Hope everyone had a great day ... :thumbsup:
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,544  
RS, just an FYI, the cheap weed barrier fabric is the same Cambric fabric used for dust covers on the bottom of furniture, also called just black bottom. It’s usually cheaper than ordering it from a fabric outlet.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,545  
TxDon was right.
Watered tomatoes and some bounced back. Picked the biggest ones (green too), because it might freeze in a couple days.
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   / Good morning!!!! #122,546  
GT 80 update. Rec'd piston. It measures correctly.
Took cylinder to local guy (related to Don), who honed it just enough to put nice cross hatch, and clean up about 98%.
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   / Good morning!!!! #122,547  
RS, just an FYI, the cheap weed barrier fabric is the same Cambric fabric used for dust covers on the bottom of furniture, also called just black bottom. Itç—´ usually cheaper than ordering it from a fabric outlet.

Top,

Thanks ... that's good to know ... :thumbsup:

I've got a number of other pieces of furniture (sofas, chairs, and box springs/mattress foundations) that need done as well ... so the info will come in handy.

Also have a couple of chairs I want to get reupholstered ... we had them done once, but they were sitting where they got a lot of sun and the UV seems to have caused a deterioration in the fabric. The cats don't help matters either ... :laughing:

The Woman wants to toss them ... but I think they are decent quality furniture (and pretty comfortable, even though I don't sit in them much) and probably worth reupholstering.

Same on the love seats ... manufactured by Highland House of Hickory (NC) in November of 1980. Gonna make do with slipcovers on those for the time being though.

Thanks again.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,548  
Further research on that lip that is rusted on the shower pan indicates that the proper name for it is a tile flange ... :thumbsup:

Makes sense ... :laughing:
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,549  
Had another thanksgiving dinner that couldn’t be beat.
This time ham instead of turkey, the rest was the same.
Guests leave in morning. Is 12 hour trip for them, and they are dropping MIL at her house on the way.
I’m considering going into work tomorrow.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,552  
Got only an hour of mowing before it was raining too hard again. Oh well. Enjoyed rest of afternoon playing cards with wife and a couple of eggnogs. Half a shot of Fireball whiskey in eggnog is really good.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,553  
Good evening all. 47F for the start, breezy, partly cloudy. Few high cirrus clouds in morning solid bank building in afternoon, breezy through mid afternoon, the wind backed off, and high temp was 63F. worked on Christmas gifts this morning, went for bike ride (25 miles) napped then sucked up leaves till dark. Turned on outside lights, then forgot to check if both photocells working.
Covid update: Cooke unchanged, Montague unchanged, Grayson unchanged, local unchanged.
Kyle stout is very strong very dark beer. Some recipes add ingredients like milk or oatmeal. Rode 25 miles today to help with extra poundage :licking:
Drew hope you find one that suits you. Prime rib was excellent few left overs in fridge :licking:
Eric glad oil filter is changed, don't worry wife and I are happy here :)
Roy just keep your distance for a while.
Bill sorry about solar charger, condolences on Smokie, what kind of horn?
Buppies thanks for the prayers, vertigo is under control and tinnitus is settling down finally.
Mike sorry about oak, they do make good firewood. Good to hear critter gone from barn
Ron glad you had good Thanksgiving, hope you are ready for snow, nice pic as always
Randy hope your dinner goes well
Paul enjoy your day
Billy hope you can take care of skunk soon, great family get together.
RNG sorry about no formal dinner for you, therefor no leftovers either. Hope your rain starts soon.
Don what a great idea, stone ground tends to be coarser if that helps
Dennis great clip
Drew nice tree, good job finding stuff so soon after move. Hope your Iris don't regret their early start.
Bird great story
RS the trick is in the cooling "racks" some times special fixtures are required. not sure about shower base, we had a separate shower and tub and took out shower so have not faced your issue.
Kyle looking good on the tomatoes and GT 80
Dennis glad you got a second dinner.
prayers for all, especially Jay/peg, Kyle's daughter, David(moss)/remodel, RNG/fire, Ron/hearing/son, Jim/sister & family, Phil/ wife's eyes and Country.
Stay safe and healthy you all.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,554  
Rswyan
Check out - The Home Depot or Red Gard to reseal your existing shower pan.

David,

Thanks, appreciate the input ... :thumbsup:

Yeah, I saw Red Gard mentioned on the John Bridge / Tile Your World Ceramic Tile Forum ... I hadn't checked it out yet, but I just watched their three videos on Home Depot's website ... sounds like it will fill the bill for overall waterproofing of the backer board. Plus it looks pretty snazzy ... :laughing:

It also seems pretty reasonably priced ... so I'll likely use it on the entire bathroom subfloor (after I handle any damage issues)

Good deal ... :D

As far as handling the shower pan/wall board junction, I'm still researching but am making some headway.
 
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   / Good morning!!!! #122,555  
This the tile I'll be using for the bathroom floor and shower walls/ceiling:

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And this is the tile for the lower 3' or so of the bathroom walls will get (the white subway tile, not the inlays):

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But capped with a black bullnose tile like in this photo:

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Black grout on all of it.

Shower base will get refinished to a straight black.

Rest of the walls (upper) will probably get a bright, vivid, fully saturated color (of The Woman's choosing)

Would like to go with something along these lines for the sink ... but we'll see ... :rolleyes::

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Kinda like that mirror too ... :D
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,556  
Good morning folks

35 now high in the upper 40’s and partly sunny today.

Dump run this morning and some more puttering around.

RS - that sink is kinda cool, that would drive my wife crazy no place to pile all the “stuff” she has on the vanity

Enjoy your day everyone
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,557  
39F cloudy mid 40's for high.

E muffin :licking: shortly headed out to do chores.
Not much if anything plan for today other than take Mrs. to super market and check game cams and put little stink bait out see how many bucks in the area.

Enjoy the day all.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,558  
Good morning, our short dry spell has come to an end. We were really lucky yesterday to be able to get on with spreading and make a cow muck mountain disappear without tractors sinking in too deep.


A good friend of mine is in his mid 50's, non smoker, not overweight and was a healthy, no-cares-in-the-world type until he caught Covid-19 in October. Within a few days of being tested he developed pneumonia and sank about as close to death as it gets. He is now out of hospital and was telling me on the phone yesterday how surreal it was to be laying in a hospital bed half conscious as the doctors discussed his case, the patient on his left having just died of Covid and it looking like he would be next. He ended up on a cocktail of experimental drugs and now from his voice I could not have guessed he had ever been ill, though he says he is constantly tired. His advice to me was to postpone the usual family Christmas, it is simply not worth the risk.

Take care everyone !
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,559  
46 and cloudy going to 62 and mostly sunny.

RS, bathroom plans look good. We are wanting to do one of ours...can't decide on design.

Eric, glad your friend is recovering. I need to go mountain climbing again, but your muck mountain doe not sound tempting.

Been kinda lazy last couple of days...plan to get busy once it gets light.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #122,560  
Drinking first cup of coffee. 26° with clear skies this morning. Heading to 47° with sunny skies. Did not sleep good last night. Not sure why. Got tractor ready for winter yesterday. Forgot to bring bucket of ice melt up to house. So when that's done I will do a conserve energy day.
Michigan covid cases 369,801. Deaths 9,357. Oakland county cases 44,624. Deaths 1,344. Another 500,000 test were done in the last week state wide.
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Eric, good news on friend.

RS, big project. Both bathrooms in my house are on concrete. It's surprising how water will seep into areas even when you think it is sealed properly. My master bath shower is done in artificial marble. No leaks that I know of yet.

:welcome: To the GM thread, Inane2 !

RNG, sorry you missed the Thanksgiving Day gettogether. Sure hope it's better next year.

Drew, your shop got me looking. Found a stand for my Dewalt planner on Amazon.

Everyone stay safe and healthy.

Good Morning All.
 

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