Good morning!!!!

jmurray01 · Feb 26, 2013

Bill, you know my feelings on online payments so I'll not mention them again. Suffice to say it's mail or telephone for me and NOTHING ELSE.

On a lighter note the weather here has been fantastic lately - sunny, cloud-free and WARM.

I cannot believe it.

But you know what they say - calm before the storm and all that...

MossflowerWoods · Feb 26, 2013

sam5570 said:
David don't forget to add in the cost of a crane if you go with trusses versus rafters and joist style. oh yeah one other thing when i put my post in the ground i went over to the tire dealler and got some old big inner tubes, i cut them and wraped my post up to ground level. i done that 22 years ago and they just as solid now as was then.

Sam,

Are you trying to pull my leg?

I do not need a crane to lift trusses 9'...

If my Kioti wont lift them higher than that, I can tip them on end and lever them up onto the headers by hand (maybe need a rope, maybe not...).

Just 'cause I'm a n00b don't mean it ain't mean to pull tricks on me...

I know, you're just looking out for me...
David

MossflowerWoods · Feb 26, 2013

sam5570 said:
David don't forget to add in the cost of a crane if you go with trusses versus rafters and joist style. oh yeah one other thing when i put my post in the ground i went over to the tire dealler and got some old big inner tubes, i cut them and wraped my post up to ground level. i done that 22 years ago and they just as solid now as was then.

Sam,

Actually, I am still considering using rafters/joists again... Building or buying trusses is likely to cost MORE than 16' posts, and in reality the problem I'm trying to solve is how to attach the headers to the posts, while maintaining the correct angles and ensuring the proper load bearing properties...

Jury is out until I actually BUY materials...

David

JDgreen227 · Feb 26, 2013

David, I had a buddy with a Ford 1520 tractor, and when he built his pole barn he added an 8 foot long heavy gage steel "L" beam to one side of the bucket (bolted on) to give him more lift height for the truss installation...it worked well for the purpose and since his rear tires were loaded it was reasonably safe.

I just got a text message from my brother asking "are you ready for the blizzard?" and I had no clue to the forecast so I looked it up...ho-hum....maybe for once the forecast will be right.

JDgreen227 · Feb 26, 2013

sam5570 said:
David don't forget to add in the cost of a crane if you go with trusses versus rafters and joist style. oh yeah one other thing when i put my post in the ground i went over to the tire dealler and got some old big inner tubes, i cut them and wraped my post up to ground level. i done that 22 years ago and they just as solid now as was then.

Were your posts treated to .40 or .60? Have never heard of the tube trick, seems to me it would keep moisture away from the wood UNLESS they got a hole in them, in which case if might keep moisture around the wood. To be honest, I really don't know how long buried treated posts SHOULD last but here I have always used .40 treated. The oldest ones are at least 12 years old and still seem solid.

MasseyWV · Feb 26, 2013

Good morning. It's currently 44 degrees with gusty winds and intermittent rain. Overall, it's a nasty gloomy day.

Mousefield · Feb 26, 2013

Frosty morning with some cloud, rain later today with a high of 6C/43F.
Going to start cutting up some trees into firewood rounds.

Mousefield · Feb 26, 2013

sam5570 said:
oh yeah one other thing when i put my post in the ground i went over to the tire dealler and got some old big inner tubes, i cut them and wraped my post up to ground level. i done that 22 years ago and they just as solid now as was then.

Have to say this is the first time I heard of doing that.