Good morning!!!!

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Question for you electronic gurus.
12 volt turn signal relay on my SUV.
When I put an LED bulb in the headlight, it blinks very rapidly, maybe twice as fast. Is the relay for the turnsignal using volts or amps to determine how fast to blink (when to disconnect/connect the circuit)? I'm guessing the LED uses less watts, but it might use more. it does have a lot of diodes compared to just one filament in a normal bulb.

 

[Looking4new]

I finally got something done today...The stray grass under the shelter for the oil tank is cut down and vinegar applied, the tooth bar is off the bucket, the house was weed eaten all the way around and the disks were taken out of the weeds where they have been for 3 years. The rain chased me in at about 2. I was going to cut the grass, but that will wait. It aint going anywhere.
The biggest job to do is the roof for the tractor shelter and then adjust the chain on the wood conveyor and shove the wood in the basement. A couple more piddly little jobs like cleaning up the wood room of all the bark and dumping that on the compost pile. By then it will be time to take the BH off and put the fast hitch back on with the disks, fluff up the driveway and then back blade it.

 

[Popgadget]

Question for you electronic gurus.
12 volt turn signal relay on my SUV.
When I put an LED bulb in the headlight, it blinks very rapidly, maybe twice as fast. Is the relay for the turnsignal using volts or amps to determine how fast to blink (when to disconnect/connect the circuit)? I'm guessing the LED uses less watts, but it might use more. it does have a lot of diodes compared to just one filament in a normal bulb.

You need a solid state flasher. The old ones needed the current draw of incandescent bulbs to heat it up so it would “flash”.

 

[mostly_gas]

Good evening all.
Ron hope you are happy with new loacation of garage control panel. Nice work getting lawn mower running. Sorry about fall and staples, lad all is well. hope good energy conservation. Nice fog and cardinals.
Drew nice rain! Hope BLT were good.
Drew nice watermelon and pics
Drew wasn't me Glad you got your money back.
ArlyA sorry more rain, send some this way if you want to. Hope the propty looked at today still pass scrutenty.
Thomas glad Mrs apprecaited the effort. Hope day went well.
Ron had to chuckle at you son sending you OSHA video on ladder saftey. Glad other neighbors help get you taken care of.
Frits glad you had enough batteries to keep going. Nice work on ground hogs.
Dennis sorry not more rain.
Bill hope weed eater work went well.
Happy(NC) sorry town garage sale a bust. Good luck at auction. Hope you got hook repaired.
Mike sorry no rain.
Willman welcome to GM thread.
Ted congrats on Dona cancer free! Hope Dr.s do as well with her back. I have something similar to goatheads, sandburrs. Didn't put down preemergent, now have hours pulling them. Hope trailer and garage go well. Sorry about fall, hope you heal quickly. Don't sweat the cath up.
Paul nice rain. thanks for R/C show pics, amazing. Glad future in-law dinner went well. Hope flight went well.
Ken glad you got to take wife to Jim Thorpe. thanks for pics. Train ride sounds fun.
Drew glad you got your 10% off. Hope crock pot concocktion is good.
David hope Makani sore not serious. Glad Ramen restaurant was good.
Thomas sorry cukes and Giants both underperformed.
Ted sorry about issue with lights on trailer, hope you can find issue quickly. 66ºF for the start, overcast sky, light breeze. Light wind, slow clearing sky, and high temp was 80ºF. Made coffee to start day, help setup, attend, help tear down Chapel, breakfast with group, then off to DASH to deliver 12 meals. Mostly conserve energy rest of day, did get new head on trimmer, and replace fridge filter. Recorded some specials on Star Trek. Did get a nap in.
Randy(wag) glad you got some rain. Hope haircut went well and no wind damage.
prayer for all, especially Jay/Peg, Kyle /Daughter, /mom's breathing, /son's migraines, Mike /BIL in FL, Ron /heart, David(moss) /remodel, /divorce, Buppies /cancer, parathyroid, blood sugar /wife, Thomas /gout, Phil /reflux, Frits /veteran son with mental issues, /granddaughter with Evans Syndrome, Ken /chronic fatigue, Diet not working, Randy(wag) /sister stoke, Scott(vt) /wife's back pain, Steppenwolfe /son-auto immune disorder, Grev /wife's eye, Ted /knee recovery, /retirement & disability red tape, /family issues, /wife back issues and cancer, Lou /eye issues, /heart issues, /wife hip replacement, Doug and wife/health issues, / hand nerve and surgery, /fall and recovery, / wife headaches and heart eval, / David(sadamo)/Sophie's hip or leg pain, Eye recovery, /back issue, Scaredy/shoulder dislocation, /marriage dissolving, / friend stop drinking, Dennis /retirement, /neighbor issues, /brother's lymphoma, /dad surgery recovery, Drew /back operation issues, /friend's wife cancer diagnosis and recovery, Scotty /back pain, Helogabals /wife's friend situation, Fatjay /father broken hip, Israel, Ukraine war, Middle East War, and Country.

 

[WinterDeere]

Question for you electronic gurus.
12 volt turn signal relay on my SUV.
When I put an LED bulb in the headlight, it blinks very rapidly, maybe twice as fast. Is the relay for the turnsignal using volts or amps to determine how fast to blink (when to disconnect/connect the circuit)? I'm guessing the LED uses less watts, but it might use more. it does have a lot of diodes compared to just one filament in a normal bulb.

In very old vehicles, the blinker relay is a bi-metallic mechanism, same as Christmas light string blinker bulbs. Current pulled thru the relay causes the bimetallic contact arm in the relay to heat up and bend away from the internal contact, breaking the circuit.

When you have less current, due to an LED conversion or burned out bulb, you'd expect it to blink slower due to less current draw taking longer to heat the bimetallic arm in the relay. But according to what I've read, it seems the relays are designed to be under-damped, such that there's an intentional temperature over-run controlling the reset time. When you lower the current, this temperature over-run is much less, and therefore the reset time is much lower. So, the off time from the blinker drops.

Newer vehicles use a microcontroller-based relay to mimic this classic behavior, and also blink at double rate when a bulb goes out, as a means of telling the driver there's a bulb out. I am not sure how these would handle an LED conversion, but they do make specific "LED compatible" blinker relays, so like @Popgadget already said, that's probably the thing to try.

 

[sodamo]

corn moon tonight
I hope Ron gets clear weather tonight.
Ron, you doing ok, get your bell rung?

Hurricane Kiko, currently far east of Hawaii, could pass close to the island chain by mid-week.
David, isn't that the name of one of your dogs?

Nope
Kekoa, Makani, Makana, and Simba the cat.

 

[sodamo]

Great news about Dona, Ted

 

[sodamo]

Thanks, Kyle. Nothing new. Dr told me shortly after I retired that I had asthma, have had inhalers ever since of various brands. earlier this year, VA said i didn’t have asthma, have COPD. Will be interesting what I’m told as result of this PFT.

 

[ronjhall]

Hot coffee has been poured. 38° with clear skies this morning. Heading to 69° with plenty of sunshine. Did a whole day of conserve energy yesterday. Did go to a neighbors place a Birthday party. No liquor drinks. Did take time to enjoy the almost fall weather. Dr. appointment then back home for some more conserve energy.
September Corn Full Moon.

LS, good to hear Dona is over C. Hope she gets over back pain soon.

Everyone stay Safe and Well.

Good Morning All.

 

[scott_vt]

Good Morning,

NY Giants win putter

Thomas, we should know better by now

week.

Good news ---- it's official: Dona is cancer free

GM Ted, wow what fantastic news Thanks for updating all of us

Ron, so sorry to hear about your accident and hope you heal quickly.
It had to make you feel pretty good when they were surprised that you were really that age, and didn’t look it