Good homeowner welder?

   / Good homeowner welder? #61  
What happened to the "no slag" comment. Be gentle, just trying to understand. Thanks.

Well, Mig won't hardly give you any slag, but flux core wires will.
First picture Mig weld no brushing, (excuse the splatter, this was done with a 46 year old CC engine drive welding machine). Second pictures Flux Core self shielded.
 

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   / Good homeowner welder? #62  
Great - Pictures cleared things up. Both of those welds look awesome, might take me a few weeks to get that good :D
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #63  
with the junk i weld on.. stick is about the only way for me to go.. especially the weather and wind too. Having had way more practice with stick, I just don't find mig as easy to do.. guess I buck the 'norms' on the mig vs stick being easier to learn.. :) ;)

soundguy
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #64  
Couple of points. 220V for welding can be obtained through a generator if you have trouble running a new 220v line to the garage. Makes it convenient to work in the field too especially as our tractors have no trouble carrying a 5000-8000W generator around in the bucket.

I do find 110V welders useful so long as you have access to the 220v for 1/4 inch and above. I like my 110/220 Miller Maxstar stick STH. Weighs about ten pounds. Really nice to have the option of just plugging into a standard wall socket. I suspect the Everlast 140/160 are quite similar.

The other portable option for someone who doesn't have access to 220 is to use one of the battery powered fluxcore units. I am blanking on the manufacturer (?Everready or something like that) but they are real popular with the off road Jeep set. A couple or three 12V deep cylce batteries gives you about the same welding capacity as a 180amp fluxcore or maybe a bit more.

There is little doubt that for a serious welding shop 220V is absolutely necessary but for simple and occasional repairs on 1/4-1/2 inch steel, their are options that at least give you that capacity without all the wiring.

Wouldn't it be great if someone sold a 3PT PTO powered welder/generator/compressor. Hook it up with leads and a plasma cutter and you'd have a welding rig with FEL!:thumbsup:
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #65  
many times I have set my stick welder ont he pallate that my pto gen is mounted to, along with my 30g compressor and ran all over the property when I was doing fencing and putting in irrigation.. used a few ratchet straps and went.

tractor was either my 1955 ford 660 gasser if I needed a FEL, or my 68 ford 3000 diesel, if I didn't need a fel... both run the pto genset fine. even ran the well on the property to pump it up and pressure test and blow lines out before the utility was hooked up for a few weeks.

no plasma cutter though! and it looked odd.. might not have transported well on a trailer like that.. :)

soundguy
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #67  
So I haven't welded since about 1992, but I think I can pick it back up pretty easily with some practice. Since getting a new tractor and trailer, I am seeing more and more instances where having a welder would be handy. I do have a good local welding shop that doesn't charge too much, but it can be a pain to bring them plans, materials, etc -- it would be easier to clamp stuff up in my garage and just get the job done in minutes. Even being able to tack stuff myself would really be a help.

I still have all my old tools -- clamps, gloves, mask, grinder, etc. The only piece missing is the welder.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a good basic welder for homeowner use? I looked at a small 115V Hobart wire feed MIG which seems like a decent unit, but it's limited (by power and wire size) to about 3/16" material. That would cover much of my use, but not the big stuff (though I could use it to tack the big stuff and then bring to the welding shop). I'd like to stay under $500. I don't have convenient 220V access in my current garage, so a 115V welder would be better. We are in the process of building a new place where I will have a nice workshop, and can wire that for 220V and upgrade to a bigger welder then if it's needed.

If I wanted to use a bigger welder at my current house, I'd have to run a line into the kitchen or laundry room and commandeer the stove or dryer hookup. Not sure my wife would dig that, but if anyone else has done something like that, let me know.

If the 115V welder isn't worth the trouble, that would also be good to know.

I'd appreciate any thoughts/advice you guys may have. Thanks.

Back in 1989, I took a welding course at a Voc-Tech school and then bought a Lincoln 225/125 AC/DC welder. In my opinion they are an excellent beginners welder with the capability to weld AC, DC(+), and DC(-). I used in to fab stuff, modify the bucket on my FEL, and repair some used equipment I bought. It worked great!

You can find lot of the Lincoln AC 225 welders around for about $100 used. However, I prefer the multi capability of the ac/dc welder. They are little harder to find used and list at $550-$600 new. The DC capability makes them well worth the extra cost, in my opinion

Just yesterday I bought a used Miller DialArc 250P AC/DC welder because I wanted more DC capablty than 125 Amps. Gotta' heck of deal on it ($250)with 50 ft leads and a bunch of rod. The PO went to wire feed. So my Lincoln is on Craigslist with 30 ft. leads.

This isn't a sales pitch but I got a heck of a lot of good use out that AC/DC Lincoln so my advice to you would be to try to find a small AC/DC machine for your purposes. I'm partial to Lincoln and Miller, but there may be some other brands out there that have good entry level AC/DC machines available.
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #68  
many times I have set my stick welder ont he pallate that my pto gen is mounted to, along with my 30g compressor and ran all over the property when I was doing fencing and putting in irrigation.. used a few ratchet straps and went.

tractor was either my 1955 ford 660 gasser if I needed a FEL, or my 68 ford 3000 diesel, if I didn't need a fel... both run the pto genset fine. even ran the well on the property to pump it up and pressure test and blow lines out before the utility was hooked up for a few weeks.

no plasma cutter though! and it looked odd.. might not have transported well on a trailer like that.. :)

soundguy
You're right. Most of us could create the portable welding shop just by modifying a PTO generator trailer to hold the rest of the equipment.
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #69  
You're right. Most of us could create the portable welding shop just by modifying a PTO generator trailer to hold the rest of the equipment.

yep.. works good.

can be kinda ghetto looking.. but works!

at one point the vreg on my old 660 died.. so I put a 6v charge on the running board / foot rest.. ran an extension cord back tot he pto genny, and had the charger set to 6a setting to keep the bat up on the olf ford while I ran all over the property that day.

like I said.. kinda farm-ghetto! but worked. :)

first time I shared / admitted that one.. :) :)

soudnguy
 
   / Good homeowner welder? #70  
Soundguy said:
yep.. works good.

can be kinda ghetto looking.. but works!

at one point the vreg on my old 660 died.. so I put a 6v charge on the running board / foot rest.. ran an extension cord back tot he pto genny, and had the charger set to 6a setting to keep the bat up on the olf ford while I ran all over the property that day.

like I said.. kinda farm-ghetto! but worked. :)

first time I shared / admitted that one.. :) :)

soudnguy

That is a FINE example of redneck engineering!!!
 

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