Getting a whole house genny installed...

   / Getting a whole house genny installed...
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#51  
Is there a ground rod out at the generator ? Could be an opportunity to burry a ground plate
Actually, there is an 8' rod sunk right behind it I put in for my ham stuff and bonded to the service entrance ground. They didn't do one themselves, the only ground connection on the generator is the 3 awg aluminum conducter going back to the switch panel by the meter.

Nick
 
   / Getting a whole house genny installed... #52  
Actually, there is an 8' rod sunk right behind it I put in for my ham stuff and bonded to the service entrance ground. They didn't do one themselves, the only ground connection on the generator is the 3 awg aluminum conducter going back to the switch panel by the meter.

Nick

VE3THO
 
   / Getting a whole house genny installed...
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#53  
KK4WMX :)
 
   / Getting a whole house genny installed... #54  
Very cool.

Nothing like watching the power go out all around you, and you just kick back and continue where you left off.

~Moses
 
   / Getting a whole house genny installed... #55  
Dont put separate ground rod on generator
 
   / Getting a whole house genny installed... #57  
Wouldn't that cause a ground loop? or potential for one?
yes, issues with multiple sources of ground and ground potential. Also UL Standard 2200, Section 18.1.6 requires that a terminal for the connection of a grounding electrode conductor must be provided on any UL listed generator. In the past, Generac provided a lug on the outside of the enclosure to serve this purpose. In 2014, Generac redesigned the connection shelf in the air-cooled generator. The redesign now allows for the connection of a grounding electrode conductor and the system bonding jumper between the equipment ground bar and neutral terminal bar. By permitting these terminals to be installed inside of the generator enclosure, UL allows the removal of the grounding electrode lug on the outside of the enclosure.
Generac optional standby system generators are, by design, floating neutral generators, and are designed to be installed with a transfer switch that has a solid neutral connection to the premises-supplied electrical service and grounding electrode system. This is referred to as a nonseparately derived system. (Refer to Informational Note No. 1 in 250.30 in the NEC.) The equipment grounding conductor that is part of the feeder conductors from the generator to the transfer equipment will ground and bond all of the non-current carrying metal parts of the generator to the grounding electrode system at the electrical service.
Only when the transfer equipment contains a switching action for the grounded (neutral) conductor will a grounding electrode system and system bonding jumper be required to be installed on the generator. This is the definition of a separately derived system, because the generator does not have a direct electrical connection to the premises- supplied electrical service.
 
   / Getting a whole house genny installed... #58  
yes, issues with multiple sources of ground and ground potential. Also UL Standard 2200, Section 18.1.6 requires that a terminal for the connection of a grounding electrode conductor must be provided on any UL listed generator. In the past, Generac provided a lug on the outside of the enclosure to serve this purpose. In 2014, Generac redesigned the connection shelf in the air-cooled generator. The redesign now allows for the connection of a grounding electrode conductor and the system bonding jumper between the equipment ground bar and neutral terminal bar. By permitting these terminals to be installed inside of the generator enclosure, UL allows the removal of the grounding electrode lug on the outside of the enclosure.
Generac optional standby system generators are, by design, floating neutral generators, and are designed to be installed with a transfer switch that has a solid neutral connection to the premises-supplied electrical service and grounding electrode system. This is referred to as a nonseparately derived system. (Refer to Informational Note No. 1 in 250.30 in the NEC.) The equipment grounding conductor that is part of the feeder conductors from the generator to the transfer equipment will ground and bond all of the non-current carrying metal parts of the generator to the grounding electrode system at the electrical service.
Only when the transfer equipment contains a switching action for the grounded (neutral) conductor will a grounding electrode system and system bonding jumper be required to be installed on the generator. This is the definition of a separately derived system, because the generator does not have a direct electrical connection to the premises- supplied electrical service.

I have a 30,000 watt diesel generator hooked up to our power system, and I grounded the generator and fuel tank to the same ground system for the power system (we are off-grid). Should I not have done that? And maybe just bonded the ground / neutral inside of the panel on the generator?
 

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