Ford 8N owner ready to go with LS

[Jimjammer4]

We got our first R3039s in last week, very nice. the extending lift arms and fender mounted loader valve joystick are the main changes. These are very well equipped tractors with dual remotes, tilt steering etc. The G series will be coming on line later. I think LS main marketing strategy has been based in agressive pricing and signing up dealers. They may be waiting till the G series arrives to revamp the website...

My dealer told me that the G3039 was going to be the R3040 replacement, but the R3039 seems to be very close. He didn't have any information to give me at that time. What's the difference between the G-Series and the R-Series? Which will have the higher price? Sorry for all the questions, but you are the first person on the site to acknowledge that there really is a G-Series.

 

[Jimjammer4]

HEY, I finally got a response from LS Tractor USA to my email message -- at least it looks like you might be right and they are trying....

"First of all, thank you for choosing LS Tractor.

As you mentioned below, we firmly believe that it is right time to upgrade our website. So we got started to find the best web design company and should be done pretty quickly.

Thank you for your valuable advice and input on our website. If you have anything further, please feel free to contact us.

Regards,
(name withheld to protect the innocent)"

Well, better late than never!

That's great news. I can hardly wait to see the new LS web site.
My own dealer's web site has disappeared from the web along with their e-mail address. That has me concerned and makes me wonder if the business is having financial difficulties. They are the only dealer in my area within 100s of miles. They are also a Mahindra Dealer, so it's not necessarily an LS issue.

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

That's great news. I can hardly wait to see the new LS web site.
My own dealer's web site has disappeared from the web along with their e-mail address. That has me concerned and makes me wonder if the business is having financial difficulties. They are the only dealer in my area within 100s of miles. They are also a Mahindra Dealer, so it's not necessarily an LS issue.

I wouldn't get too excited about the web thing -- still sounds to me like it might be a while before they get anything new up.

I'm sorry to hear that about your dealer, but it might be something as simple as they forgot to renew their domain name or service provider. If they are not too far away you might want to stop by and see what's going on.

 

[houstonscott]

Anyone notice the site now has link to LS in Korea. What I find interesting is that the tractors on the LS Korea site are different than those offered in USA. I noticed there is a U6030 offered there and not here. And all the U series tractors on the Korea site have a different engine than those being sold here. The US tractors in the U series have Mitsubishi S4s 3.33L engines, the Korea site shows Mitsubishi S4QL's 2.5L engines. Interesting. I'm glad to have the S4s, one of the reasons I picked the LS was the extra size of the engine, I like cubic inches over a turbo any day.

HS

 

[Sublifer]

My dealer told me that the G3039 was going to be the R3040 replacement.

There isn't an R3040, think he/you meant I3040. The G series is meant to replace the I series I think... I'm still curious if there is a G3039 and an R3039. Hopefully they'll update their site soon so we can tell.

 

[Sublifer]

there is a U6030 offered [on Korean site] and not here. HS

I'm sure they name their model numbers to compare to similar competitors in the market... LS probably compares their U5000 series to the JD 5 series here in the US whereas there is probably a competitor in Asia that has a 6 or 6000 series that they are competing with.

And the S4QL is in the R series here so maybe that 6000 series is actually our R4000's?

I'm with you on the cubic inches though. Tweaks to make an engine more powerful is nice, but that is all a turbo is... I'd rather have a bigger/stronger engine to begin with

 

[houstonscott]

The U series in US has the Mitsubishi S4s engine which is 3.33L's. The U series in Korea listed the U series with the S4LQ engine which is 2.5L's. So either the USA gets a different engine or the new 2011 U series here will have a different engine soon. I think the 3.3L engine is better to have and would cause me to think about U series purchase if it had the 2.5L engine. Of the big three things that make the LS stand out in the U series is the extra size of engine. The other two are overall weight and HP.

HS

 

[avatar]

hey avatar,

You might want to give LS Tractor USA a call: 252-984-0700 -- I called them early on about missing some pages in my S3010 owner's manual and they answered right away and then emailed me the missing pages pronto.

Thanks little blue, ill call them later today and see if i can get some questions answered.

 

[avatar]

Little blue, I also got a reply back form LS today,seems there is a lot going on with a new model rolling out,redoing there e-mail system, and as you stated redoing there web page. Also heard back from my dealer today..tractor should be arriving at his dealership sometime today and ready to be delivered the first of the week HEY.

 

[houstonscott]

The more I look at the Korean LS site the more I like the LS brand. This is a big company that is investing in their company and improving the whole line. I could easily see LS challenge and overtake Kioti right away. Kubota has a real following that will be hard to challenge but Kubota had better start getting to work or they are going to loose market place.

HS

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

Little blue, I also got a reply back form LS today,seems there is a lot going on with a new model rolling out,redoing there e-mail system, and as you stated redoing there web page. Also heard back from my dealer today..tractor should be arriving at his dealership sometime today and ready to be delivered the first of the week HEY.

That's great -- good luck sleeping till then! I don't even have to mention the picture thing, right?

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

I'm with you on the cubic inches though. Tweaks to make an engine more powerful is nice, but that is all a turbo is... I'd rather have a bigger/stronger engine to begin with

I have a turbo in my car (Subaru WRX) and I love it, but I'm with you here. It seems to me that a tractor with a turbocharged engine is underpowered to begin with and they have to make up for it with a turbo. Turbos do a great job of increasing HP without putting undue strain on the engine, but they really suck down fuel.

With my car I don't have to go to turboland unless I need (actually it's "want") the power. But I'd have to guess one of these turbocharged tractor engines would have to go there just to turn the PTO at 540 rpm. Maybe it's really not a big deal and doesn't eat up a lot more diesel, but at the very least it's something else that can go wrong. I too say just go with a bigger engine.

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

The more I look at the Korean LS site the more I like the LS brand. This is a big company that is investing in their company and improving the whole line. I could easily see LS challenge and overtake Kioti right away. Kubota has a real following that will be hard to challenge but Kubota had better start getting to work or they are going to loose market place.
HS

Funny, I responded to a newbie post up in the General "Buying/Pricing/Comparisons" thread yesterday. The guy wanted to spend no more than $18K on a tractor w/FEL and brush hog. Like always the posts up there were all about him having to look for used green or orange gear. I piped in that he could go with new, warrantied equipment if he would look at Mahindra, LS, Kioti, etc.... Weird, he totally bought into the other line of thinking and only responded to posts about finding used green or orange stuff and never never even acknowledged the possibility of buying something else. I've decided I'm not going to spend a lot of time in that thread anymore. Some people are willing to look beyond brand loyalty and reputation (whether deserved or not) while others can't. Well we have to give them that, green and orange does have better resale value, but does anyone really ever go into to buying a tractor thinking they are going to sell it one day? If so maybe they need to try to buy the right one the first time. OK, time to end this rant. I'll just have to let the braver souls find their own way down here to the LS forum.

 

[bluechip]

Selling KIOTI and LS tractors, it never ceases to amaze me how many customers just wont look at the tractors, the spcifications and compare based on any kind of anaylsis. They have to buy what their friends/family have bought. Name brands dont mean what they once did, Even a General Motors can go bankrupt. The Koreans have been nipping at the Japanese heels in the tractor business just as they have in the auto business. They are doing the same thing the Japanese did, first low price, then as manufacturing costs increased as the workforce demanded more money, etc., they moved up the line and built high value tractors with very high quality and presumably better margins. I think that LS replacing Shabaru in the New Holland Boomer lineup is a sign of what is happening across the industry. New Holland, McCormick, Bobcat, Landini have all now sourced some of their tractors from S. Korea. Now with the terrible tragedy that has happended to Japan, Inc., only time will tell how the markets will be affected.

 

[houstonscott]

I would have to agree with you. I didn't know about tractor brands before the big search for a tractor. Like everyone else I knew about JD and Kubota, I own a Kubota lawn mower. I set out to research all tractors, what were the factors, where were they built, who had the most modern designs, best material. I am a german car guy so I know there is difference in machines. So the search began. I came to the conclusion that in the compact tractor field, the Massy-Ferguson 1600 series built by Iseke was the clearly the best. Then I discovered LS. Found a great tractor, and found that I could move to a utility tractor for the same money maybe even less. Turns out when the property was finally decided on the acreage called for a utility tractor not a compact. The LS U series was clearly the stand out, HP, weight, engine size, fit, finish, quality of materials, modern assembly and factory and many items that are extra on others are standard. Clearly LS is selling low to get into market at the start, but I can see and understand that so my good. I have to say many of JD's are very old designs straight from a field in India, not real impressed. Kubota is nice but long in the tooth and over priced, and frankly they have issues everyone seems to just pass over.

HS

 

[joemd11]

My experience is almost exactly like that of HS. I bought some additional property which adjoined our current property - 15 acres total. Decided I needed a tractor to keep some of it mowed and do some other chores. I looked at JD, Kubota, NH, Kioti, CC/Y, etc. They all seem like well made tractors that would do the job. Then I happened to run across the LS brand. At first I wasn't too interested because I had never heard of them and knew of nobody that owned one. Then I started reading posts from people on this forum that had them and seemed to like them. I started looking at LS more closely and was impressed with the tractor and the price. I also was impressed with the dealer. So, short story long, I now own an R3039. Haven't had time to do much with it so far, but I think I'll be more than satisfied with the tractor. The tractor seems built very well, the fit and finish is on par or better than the others, and it has way more standard features. And, if I'm not mistaken, the LS mafia on this forum seems to be growing by the minute. Go Blue!!