Ford 1210 Lift Fail

[sandman2234]

If you search my posts, you will see where I had a lift that wouldn't go down, and it was due to the head over the piston being installed 180 degrees incorrectly.
David from jax

 

[JC-jetro]

There are also two O rings easily accessed in the drop rate control - which is usually a knob under the front of the seat. That drop speed control is usually the culprit when a 3pt hitch will not stay up. It is simply a valve that controls the rate at which fluid leaves the 3pt lift cylinder.

Scotty,

The return path of hyd oil flow from lift cylinder is through rate of return back to spool valve. So only leaky spool or lift piston seal could be the cause of 3 point drop. The knob simply establishes how fast or slow 3 point goes down and nothing more.

 

[JC-jetro]

If you search my posts, you will see where I had a lift that wouldn't go down, and it was due to the head over the piston being installed 180 degrees incorrectly.
David from jax

yup, that is exactly right. The head is symmetrical and that mistake can happen. when I did mine I made sure oil path way with the O-ring is in right orientation.

If you rotate the rate of return all the way to turtle then effectively you block the oil return and cannot lower. if 3 point is all the way up and then you turn the rate of return to turtle/closed and 3 point comes then , then for sure it is the seal bypassing the oil to diffy and lowering of the 3 point arms.

 

[RocketMan2024]

If you search my posts, you will see where I had a lift that wouldn't go down, and it was due to the head over the piston being installed 180 degrees incorrectly.
David from jax

Yes, i figured that would happen so i took pics of it before i took it apart. But my problem was the filter was completely clogged. Never even thought that would happen.

 

[RocketMan2024]

Does your 3pt cylinder work now? It looks like a nice clean rebuild you've done.

There are also two O rings easily accessed in the drop rate control - which is usually a knob under the front of the seat. That drop speed control is usually the culprit when a 3pt hitch will not stay up. It is simply a valve that controls the rate at which fluid leaves the 3pt lift cylinder.

Hope you can find parts. All of those older tractors were designed with the expectation of parts always being available, and that the tractors would then last forever. That was great for owners, but.....
Then the manufacturers all realized that if they continued down that path they would end up either being forced to improve and innovate or they would simply be putting themselves out of business. And innovation is a gamble.

Yes, it works great. It was the filter plugged up . Cleaned it and works great. Yes on the parts being hard to find. That seal is very expensive and the dealers who still have it have jacked the price up so high it is insane. Greed has is out of hand. So after i paid high dollar i got it and measured it and found on Ebay for less than $10 dollars. Size is 48MM x 60MM X7MM. Will keep them in stock. No need to get ripped off by greedy corporations. Othe parts are just not available and impossible to replace and best to just scrap the tractor for remaining parts. My next job is the front wheel drive. I think the rear u joint is broken. I can probably find a replacement cause u joints of all sizes are available.

 

[arto98607]

Would you be happier if the New Holland dealer did not have the once in 30+ year seal in stock at all at any price?

 

[RocketMan2024]

Would you be happier if the New Holland dealer did not have the once in 30+ year seal in stock at all at any price?


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Like i said in my other posts, i measured the seal i got and ordered 2 of the exact same design and size on Ebay and have them on hand. I will keep in stock until i need , if ever. Or maybe one of my friends will need one. So does not matter to me.

 

[sandman2234]

Yes, i figured that would happen so i took pics of it before i took it apart. But my problem was the filter was completely clogged. Never even thought that would happen.

Glad you found the issue and were able to correct the issue. In my case, I actually scribed a line across the head and onto the base, so that a mistake wouldn't happen. Unfortunately for me, the head had already been removed, and me scribing a line only made it more difficult for me to realize that the scribed line was incorrect!
David from jax