First electric tractor ride

[Williy]

I am going to check this out find out the time
that it actually takes to burn 5 gallons of diesel.
Wonder when we will have to switch to JP8???

willy

 

[bindian]

JP-8 might be the economical choice. I believe the min. purchase is by the drum. here is current pricing at $3.63 gal.
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JP 8 $90.04968 per barrel

jet-a1-fuel.com

Economical until the lack of lube oil in the JP8 trashes your engine.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

Jet fuel works fine, in a diesel, when you add lubricity to it.
I have known coworkers who put jet fuel in their trucks from fuel that had to be drained from our jets.
Road taxes are a whole other subject. Penalties for using off road fuel in on road vehicles is a $10,000 fine. My coworkers never "bought" the fuel, so they were in the clear, but I'm guessing here.
hugs, Brandi

 

[4570Man]

Jet fuel works fine, in a diesel, when you add lubricity to it.
I have known coworkers who put jet fuel in their trucks from fuel that had to be drained from our jets.
Road taxes are a whole other subject. Penalties for using off road fuel in on road vehicles is a $10,000 fine. My coworkers never "bought" the fuel, so they were in the clear, but I'm guessing here.
hugs, Brandi

Is jet fuel dyed red? I wouldn’t imagine people burning it in road vehicles is enough of a problem to go through that effort.

 

[bindian]

Is jet fuel dyed red? I wouldn’t imagine people burning it in road vehicles is enough of a problem to go through that effort.

Jet fuel is a clear to amber color.
hugs, Brandi

 

[MossRoad]

When I worked at the airport, we'd burn jet fuel in our boiler to heat the hanger floor because we bought it at the same price as home heating oil. However, we never ran it in any of our diesel equipment. We had a diesel tank for those. Don't ask me why, because I have no idea. That's just the way it was.

Jet fuel was not dyed. Avgas was dyed. In some smaller private jets and turbo props we had to add Prist in the winter time, which was a fuel system icing inhibitor, and a micro biocidal fungicide. It was an aerosol can spray. You had to clip a little plastic nozzle onto the fuel nozzle and run a small flexible hose to the can nozzle. Then you had to inject the Prist into the fuel stream as you filled the tank over the wing. I do not recall the ratio, as it was 40ish years ago.

Fuel system icing inhibitor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Prist is kind of a generic name, like Kleenex.

We didn't have to add it to jets that had the large fuel connections. I don't know why. I'd guess they had systems that would take care of fuel icing or perhaps a tank of something somewhere, but I never recall seeing that in the 6-7 years I was refueling aircraft.

 

[IndyJay]

I'm thinking this price would come down as the technology advances.
Then I think of the mining needed to make one battery and become unconvinced that it would.

How quickly are we depleting the Lithium supply with all of the new products coming online?

 

[4570Man]

Jet fuel is a clear to amber color.
hugs, Brandi

They usually check for off-road diesel by dipping the tank for red dye. I suppose there’s the very small possibility they could audit your receipts and conclude you’re burning untaxed fuel in your vehicle but that would be extremely unlikely. And if your buddies were using fuel gave to them then there’s nothing they could prove.

 

[bindian]

Large jets have fuel heaters in the oil system.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

When I worked at the airport, we'd burn jet fuel in our boiler to heat the hanger floor because we bought it at the same price as home heating oil. However, we never ran it in any of our diesel equipment. We had a diesel tank for those. Don't ask me why, because I have no idea. That's just the way it was.

Jet fuel was not dyed. Avgas was dyed. In some smaller private jets and turbo props we had to add Prist in the winter time, which was a fuel system icing inhibitor, and a micro biocidal fungicide. It was an aerosol can spray. You had to clip a little plastic nozzle onto the fuel nozzle and run a small flexible hose to the can nozzle. Then you had to inject the Prist into the fuel stream as you filled the tank over the wing. I do not recall the ratio, as it was 40ish years ago.

Fuel system icing inhibitor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Prist is kind of a generic name, like Kleenex.

We didn't have to add it to jets that had the large fuel connections. I don't know why. I'd guess they had systems that would take care of fuel icing or perhaps a tank of something somewhere, but I never recall seeing that in the 6-7 years I was refueling aircraft.

Back in my first two years as a mechanic, I worked on piston powered planes. As I remember it, 80 octane av gas was dyed red. 100 octane av gas was dyed blue. I don't remember 115 and 130 octane's color.
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

I can hear the farmer now.............Honey, don't start the dryer until after the tractor is charged... .................https://welovetrump.com/2022/08/31/california-urges-residents-to-avoid-charging-electric-cars/?utm_source=newsletter_ssp
hugs, Brandi

 

[MossRoad]

Back in my first two years as a mechanic, I worked on piston powered planes. As I remember it, 80 octane av gas was dyed red. 100 octane av gas was dyed blue. I don't remember 115 and 130 octane's color.
hugs, Brandi

Yep. I think the others were green and purple?

 

[5030]

Back in the day, wasn't Sunoco 260 premium blue?

 

[bindian]

Yep. I think the others were green and purple?

Bingo, hit a pig win a prize. Yep they were green and purple. I was slightly wrong about the blue. It was/is for 100LL. I DDG 'd it. I think 82UL was used after I left general aviation and went to the airlines.

• 100LL – Blue
• 82UL – Purple
• 80/87 – Red
• 100/130 – Green
• hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

Back in the day, wasn't Sunoco 260 premium blue?

Since it was 100 octane, yes it was blue. But back in the day is still today, as you can still buy it........... Sunoco 260 GT 100 Octane Race Fuel
hugs, Brandi

 

[MossRoad]

Bingo, hit a pig win a prize. Yep they were green and purple. I was slightly wrong about the blue. It was/is for 100LL. I DDG 'd it. I think 82UL was used after I left general aviation and went to the airlines.

• 100LL – Blue
• 82UL – Purple
• 80/87 – Red
• 100/130 – Green
• hugs, Brandi

At the first airport I worked at, we only had ground pumps and no fuel trucks. This was 1979-80. As I recall they had the 80/87, 100LL, 100/130 and Jet A. You either had to taxi up to the pumps, or get towed up to the pumps.

My very first day working there they had an air show! The very first plane I ever put fuel in was a T6 Texan.

 

[5030]

Since it was 100 octane, yes it was blue. But back in the day is still today, as you can still buy it........... Sunoco 260 GT 100 Octane Race Fuel
hugs, Brandi

...and it was 26 cents a gallon if I remember correctly.

 

[California]

...and it was 26 cents a gallon if I remember correctly.

Ow! Ow! Ow!

 

[California]

 

[airbiscuit]

Perpetual Motion Machine?