Filling Your tires With Air ???

/ Filling Your tires With Air ??? #2  
I wouldn't worry too much... That vid showed a 2 pc wheel coming apart, not a tire exploding.
I doubt any of the vehicles you list above use 2pc wheels, except perhaps the semi if it's older.

Cages are a definite requirement for inflating tires on 2pc wheels, though I've done some with a remote hose when a cage wasn't available. If severely over-inflated (like the earth mover tire at 150psi, when it's probably rated for 45) 2pc wheels can let loose. And you CAN blow a standard tire out on a 1pc wheel too, but again, you'd have to SEVERELY over-inflate them. I've had tires with damage start slipping belts, and making horrendous noises, but we just pull the core or quickly clip on a air chuck and back away. Never had one totally explode.

In short, I think your fears are fairly un-founded. Don't over-inflate, be careful around 2pc wheels, and you'll be fine.
 
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Funny You mention 2 piece wheels . That is what My grandfathers '61 dodge power wagon had on it , Split rims actually , with that " locking " ring . Once it was passed down to my Dad , He could not get rid of them fast enough . He Hated having tire repairs done on them before my Grandfather sold it to my Dad .

Although I have seen semi tires blow while going down the road , usually that is a lack of inflation , which causes to high of tire temp , thus failure , The concussion from that is enough to leave a wet spot in your underwear . :D

Fred H.
 
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A neighbor of mine told me about his hired hand. The hand had a pickup that he had re-configured the AC compressor to be an air compressor. He was airing up a tire that was lying flat on the ground. The tire exploded while he was leaning over it. The tire came off the ground and hit him in the face, caveing in his face. He staggered about ten feet away before he died.
 
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I had a 3 year old spare tire on a trailer explode. It blew a hole on the side of my barn of which it was parked.

The tire was a 235/75/16 Goodyear Marathon LRD Aired upto 80 PSI. It had not ever touched the road. My neighbor was on his riding mower about 25' from my barn when it happened and he thought someone had shot a 12 Ga in his direction.

Scarry part was the boat was in my barn and the spare was mounted on the trailer about 3' away from where my 5 year old daughter parked her bike.
 
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When I was still working in the auto industry I had a coworker that had repaired a 19.5 off a f450 dump truck, he was airing it up with it flat on the ground when the sidewall ripped open. Luckily it was the side facing the ground and all it did was throw him across the bay and scare the crap out of everyone in the shop.
It was one of the rear tires and apparently they had been driving on it long enough to cause damage.

Never forget that one, we had a cage also but i never worked on anything that required it.
 
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Whenever we fixed one of the split rims (rural service station) we let the lift down on the assembly before airing. Thought it might help a little, though luckily never had it tested. Couldn't wait til the (usually farm) truck drove away. Bad design, esp on an old rusty rim, imo. Jim
 
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Years ago, dad was filling a semi tire laying flat on the floor. Not sure of which style though. Fortunately the air hose was clipped to the valve stem and he wasn't leaning over it. The ring came off and hit the metal ceiling 14+ft in between the trusses. The patched ceiling was a constant reminder.

Will a load chain wrapped around the tire and rim secure it enough if it lets go? Just remember that from somewhere. Jon
 
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I have a new respect for tires. Holy crap!!!!
 
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Just figure how long it takes a 5hp compressor to fill that tire. 1 minute? 2-3? That is a lot of power being pumped into that rubber pressure vessel. A 5hp winch could lift a man several hundred feet in that time I bet.
 
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What's surprising is not all of these accidents happen when inflating. Some of those were simply laying a tire on the ground or touching the tire it seems.
 
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Perhaps the people who are scared silly of split rims are the same ones that do not know how to properly align a tire and rim assembly on a "Dayton" style hub?
 
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Can someone explain to me why split rims exist? Why aren't all rims one piece?
 
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Can someone explain to me why split rims exist? Why aren't all rims one piece?
Ease of changing the tire, it's a lot easier to change a tire in the field on a split rim, especially on the older type of tires they were used with.
Split rims have been phased out for awhile now, some states don't allow split rims to be put back in service if they come into a shop, however they can be kept if it's a road call.
Lot of split rim trucks get tires replaced on the side of the road in front of the shop............
 
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Ease of changing the tire, it's a lot easier to change a tire in the field on a split rim, especially on the older type of tires they were used with.
Split rims have been phased out for awhile now, some states don't allow split rims to be put back in service if they come into a shop, however they can be kept if it's a road call.
Lot of split rim trucks get tires replaced on the side of the road in front of the shop............

Thanks. So we traded ease of use for safety.
 
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There are still many split or multi part rims on skidders, loaders and other wheeled equipment because of the thick sidewalls on the tires and there is no flex in the sidewalls and bead that would allow dismounting off a drop center wheel.

David
 
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There are still many split or multi part rims on skidders, loaders and other wheeled equipment because of the thick sidewalls on the tires and there is no flex in the sidewalls and bead that would allow dismounting off a drop center wheel.
We have multi part rims on a haywagon, but they bolt together. Makes tire changes easy though.

Aaron Z
 
 
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