Filled tire leaking

[Zerk]

Rear tire looked low. I had to use channel locks on valve stem cap. Whole thing came loose and fluid started coming put.

Screwed back in. Put air in, and started making. Tightened stem, checked psi, leakd again, tightened.

Last owner said tires were not filled. Was clear and salty. Salt water.

I am on now? Embarrassed to admit never checked tires. I think it measured 3 psi after air. But it started squirting water on my hands. Single digit temps.

1995 new Holland 2120. Probably original.

What psi with fluid?

Thanks.

 

[Zerk]

By chance was at 12:00. Reading, I am guessing calcium chloride. Should I wash my jacket?

 

[Zerk]

Going to sound stupid, but I can't tell what they should inflated to in manual. I do read 8-18, no psi. Somewhere in there based on weight and load?

 

[Phillip w]

Calcium chloride is pretty much kind of a corrosive. Yeah I'd clean up real good /take a shower. Can't really tell you what psi you need. I generally run about 20-25 psi in my rear tractor tires. If you continue to have leak issues you may need a new valve stem. When adding air to a tire with fluid in it, you always want the valve stem up as high as the time rotation will allow. This will help prevent the fluid from trying to leak when adding air. You also get a bonus, you don't have to bend over as far (lol).

 

[John_Mc]

It's important with tires filled with something corrosive like Calcium Choride to keep them filled to the proper level. You want as much of that rim submerged as possible. Exposure to air will start the corrosion process. You also need to rinse off any parts of the tractor that may have calcium chloride on them. Not sure how you do that in single digit temps, but at least get the worst of it off.

As for your clothing, just rinse it thoroughly to get the worst of it out, then wash it.

 

[sixdogs]

Could be just a bad valve. How does the wheel itself look regarding rust?

 

[Zerk]

Haven't had tire off. But looks good from outside.


This thread is 2 point. I am not sure how to deal with fluid filled tires. Check at 1200.

Can i just add air?

 

[Phillip w]

Haven't had tire off. But looks good from outside.


This thread is 2 point. I am not sure how to deal with fluid filled tires. Check at 1200.

Can i just add air?

Yes you can add air. The deal is you want to drive/rotate the tire so that the valve stem is up as high as the tire rotation will allow. Or to put it differently as you look at the tire/wheel, imagine it is a clock. You want your valve stem in the 12 o'clock position.

 

[sixdogs]

Yes you can add air. The deal is you want to drive/rotate the tire so that the valve stem is up as high as the tire rotation will allow. Or to put it differently as you look at the tire/wheel, imagine it is a clock. You want your valve stem in the 12 o'clock position.

This is the right advice. Just add air as stated. If you have a leak other than the valve stem it will be difficult to deal with because of the weight of the tire and the fact it would all have to come apart to get at the tube for a patch. If the wheel ever is too rusty you need to get looking for a replacement ASAP because they are a proprietary, rather than universal style, and are difficult to find. You have to find a used one but since there were a lot of 2110 and 2120's made, that shouldn't be too hard.

I found that 1960's-1970's JD weights fit the rear of my 2110 so if you have to get the fluid out that's a possible plan B.

 

[Tx Jim]

As you stated air pressure in liquid filled tires should be the same as air only filled tires depending on weight on attachment on 3 pt hitch. Back when I PDI'd tractors with liquid filled R-1 bias ply tires at dealership I just added air until outside of cleat just started to clear floor and pressure will be close to 16-18 psi.

 

[Zerk]

Thanks. Will check again. I don't think really 3 psi. I think fluid threw it off, when it came out

 

[Zerk]

Buddy stopped by and informed the valve stems have a check valve sorta. They need enough pressure to close it. When I stuck the valve stem wrench in, I must have just got lucky.

Other rear was only slightly better. Wasn't leaking. I put them both to 15 to start with.

With as expensive as tires are, I am a fool to not take care of them. 7psi and the one looked ok. 3 the other looked bagged out.

Went to tractor supply and got gauge. Will check front next time. Not sure if they are filled. It is 4wd

 

[Zerk]

I am guessing they make 30 some tooth socket for valve stem. Is propriatray?

 

[Phillip w]

My guess is the fronts probably not filled with fluid. It is possible that they might be though. Usually the rears are filled as a counter weight for a front end loader or ag tractors have fluid in the rear tires alot for added traction to say pull a big disc or similar implement.

 

[goeduck]

By chance was at 12:00. Reading, I am guessing calcium chloride. Should I wash my jacket?

Calcium chloride is just saltwater. My local tire place just runs it down the drain into the city sewage system where it is diluted.

From Wikipedia: Calcium chloride is relatively harmless to plants and soil. As a de-icing agent, it is much more effective at lower temperatures than sodium chloride. When distributed for this use, it usually takes the form of small, white spheres a few millimeters in diameter, called prills. Solutions of calcium chloride can prevent freezing at temperature as low as −52 ｰC (−62 ｰF), making it ideal for filling agricultural implement tires as a liquid ballast, aiding traction in cold climates.[10]

 

[CincyFlyer]

Calcium chloride is just saltwater. My local tire place just runs it down the drain into the city sewage system where it is diluted.

From Wikipedia: Calcium chloride is relatively harmless to plants and soil. As a de-icing agent, it is much more effective at lower temperatures than sodium chloride. When distributed for this use, it usually takes the form of small, white spheres a few millimeters in diameter, called prills. Solutions of calcium chloride can prevent freezing at temperature as low as −52 ｰC (−62 ｰF), making it ideal for filling agricultural implement tires as a liquid ballast, aiding traction in cold climates.[10]

It's what they use on the roads in many places, as well. It is very corrosive, however, as are all salts.

 

[fried1765]

It's what they use on the roads in many places, as well. It is very corrosive, however, as are all salts.

Per Goeduck: "making it ideal for filling agricultural implement tires as a liquid ballast"

You kidding me?
"Ideal" ..... bah humbug!
CaCl is from days of old!
It will rot/corrode your steel wheels.
The preferred product of modern times is "beet juice" (expensive).
Windshield washer (methanol mix) fluid is a much less expensive option, though it weighs 2+ lbs./gal. less than either "beet juice", or CaCl.

 

[Peter 315]

"making it ideal for filling agricultural implement tires as a liquid ballast"

You kidding me?
"Ideal" ..... bah humbug!
CaCl is from days of old!
It will rot/corrode your steel wheels.
The preferred product of modern times is "beet juice" (expensive).
Windshield washer fluid is another (much less expensive) option.

CaCl is old school but put it in tubes , I had a 93 jd with tubes same rims 24 years later, Beet juice aka rim guard is 30% heavier than water

 

[Zerk]

It is a 95. Last owner said it was not filled, and handled fine with 4wd. So how long has it been filled is unknown. Guess he didn't check tire pressure either. He did say his dad used it a bit though.


The stems are threaded into rim. So I was thinking no tubes. But don't know.

I am familar with calcium chorlide a little bit, road the haul road to Arctic Circle on my bike. It sure makes dirt slippery.

 

[LouNY]

I would expect that a tire from 1995 would be tubed, most tractor valve stems are two piece, you can also purchase new glue tube repair stems.
A replacement glue on valve stem is commonly available.
Replacement Valve Stem for TR 218A/22A | GEMPLER'S
Also you can get the upper section of your valve stem, a tire core housing
http://https://www.gemplers.com/product/171396/New-Style-TR-CH3-Tractor-Tire-Core-Housing
Gemplers is a good source for these parts and some good information on tires and other stuff.