Fergie's in ICU

[dicktill]

Did the rod break or come loose at crank end? Could have been faulty rod end cap or rod itself. Not common but it does happen. Either way might need two tubes of JB weld to patch the block

Yup, at least two!

I couldn't see any of the rod, but I think the cap came off because the bolts failed; however, that doesn't rule out the rod failing further up first. There's a guy on eBay parting out a GC1720 and he told me that the engine had failed at about 100 hours. He was only selling two rods and pistons (I bought other stuff from him).

And there's this GC2400 for sale with 387 hours and a new engine: 2011 MASSEY FERGUSON GC2400L For Sale in Batavia, New York

... so, I guess it happens.

 

[JTKub]

I can't find the post, but I recall one with an Iseki 3cyl where some bolt (or nut?) w/in the block backed itself out and caused the same type of catastrophic failure.

 

[irvingj]

Wow, just saw this -- OUCH!! Do keep us posted!

My GC -- now shows 261.7 hrs... oh, yeah, plus that 1000 when the counter went back to zero....

 

[thclimer]

Wow! That sure is a disappointment.

Are you taking it to the dealer or are they coming to get it?

 

[dicktill]

Wow! That sure is a disappointment.

Are you taking it to the dealer or are they coming to get it?

The dealer picked it up on Wednesday and will pull the engine and tear it down sometime next week.

 

[EddieWalker]

Please keep us posted on what the Dealer says. I have a 2022 Massey and it would be nice to hear that Massey took care of it.

 

[hayden]

I think it will be pretty hard for Massey to deny it as a warranty repair unless there is something really bad that the OP did like run it out of oil, or put fuel in it rather than oil, or something like that. But he says it's all be properly cared for.

 

[Shawn T. W.]

That's too bad Dick, my Little Baby Fergie is like my right arm, don't know what I'd do without her ...

Do you have another tractor?

If not, and it's gonna be quite awhile, I'd ask the dealer if they have a used trade in that you could borrow?

 

[dicktill]

That's too bad Dick, my Little Baby Fergie is like my right arm, don't know what I'd do without her ...

Do you have another tractor?

If not, and it's gonna be quite awhile, I'd ask the dealer if they have a used trade in that you could borrow?

She's my only gal, other than my wife. : ) It could be a good opportunity for me to finish the dozens and dozens of non-Fergie jobs on my to-do list.

 

[WranglerX]

All I can say is OUCH.....

 

[Dmacleo]

All I can say is OUCH.....

bet that was not the first word out of @dicktill mouth.

 

[dicktill]

bet that was not the first word out of @dicktill mouth.

Tee hee. : (

 

[Shawn T. W.]

I normally run mine in the green zone too if needing the slightly more power or speed. . .

If I remember right you have the 23 HP version, I have the 25 HP version ... The only difference I believe in the engine is the fuel supply screw adjustment is set less than mine, and you have a different tachometer ...

Mine looks like this ...

So if I can run mine to 3100 RPM regularly, I don't see how even if you could get yours that high, that it would cause a problem like you have, not saying you have even tried to push the RPM's just that these little engines are designed for much more than they are setup for .

 

[kennyd]

Wow, just seeing this @dicktill , hope it gets taken care of quickly!

 

[DMW]

I normally run mine in the green zone too if needing the slightly more power or speed. . .

If I remember right you have the 23 HP version, I have the 25 HP version ... The only difference I believe in the engine is the fuel supply screw adjustment is set less than mine, and you have a different tachometer ...

Mine looks like this ...


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So if I can run mine to 3100 RPM regularly, I don't see how even if you could get yours that high, that it would cause a problem like you have, not saying you have even tried to push the RPM's just that these little engines are designed for much more than they are setup for .

Maybe, but the early GC2300s with the Iseki 3cyl did not have a tachometer. Snowblowing or chipping, 20 years of wide open throttle, no issues.

 

[hayden]

Maybe, but the early GC2300s with the Iseki 3cyl did not have a tachometer. Snowblowing or chipping, 20 years of wide open throttle, no issues.

Tach or not, it should be governed and incapable of over-revving except in some fault condition.

 

[Shawn T. W.]

My point was they seem to be the same engine, adjusted differently ... From the sales brochure ...

But looking at the owners manual, it seems to have a slightly different number ...

But in the service manual under the engine category, it makes no distinction about them being different ... ?

 

[Little Red Tractor]

Way past ICU!

I'm thinking Fergie is headed for the morgue!

 

[Shawn T. W.]

Naw ... New motor will put her back in business!

 

[4Liberty]

Looks like someone forgot to tighten a rod bolt/nut. At less than 600 hours that’s what I’d suspect, or else one of them just wasn’t there from the get go. I’d be curious to know if one of them is missing from the pile of evidence.