Everlast Powerarc 200ST

[Tractorrr]

This welder is dual voltage 110/220. Does this mean it can be plugged into a regular 110 outlet? I have someone coming to set up 220 in about a week but am anxious to try it out and was wandering if I could just plug it into a regular 110 outlet.

 

[dragoneggs]

This welder is dual voltage 110/220. Does this mean it can be plugged into a regular 110 outlet? I have someone coming to set up 220 in about a week but am anxious to try it out and was wandering if I could just plug it into a regular 110 outlet.

Yes, should come with a conversion plug like this...

 

[murse72]

i tried ordering one off of amazon, shipping date kept getting pushed back. Then stated shipped with a tracking number but the number did not work, then got an email staying it still had not been shipped. I ordered it on April 19 and on June 1 they cancelled my order. I guess they have having issues getting that welder. Hope you have better luck than me on getting one.

 

[Lnk]

You could give mark@everlast a pm for a quote. He is in the stickie at the top of the welding forum.

 

[RNeumann]

Most welders on a 120v 20amp breaker won’t weld very hot. To consistently avoid piping the breaker I’d say you can expect maybe 30-40% of max output.
IMO the 120v “feature” is gimmicky- it seems to cause more frustration to new welders than bail folks out. Plan to get a 240v plug or run a 10g cord with new ends off your dryer plug.

 

[fried1765]

Most welders on a 120v 20amp breaker won’t weld very hot. To consistently avoid piping the breaker I’d say you can expect maybe 30-40% of max output.
IMO the 120v “feature” is gimmicky- it seems to cause more frustration to new welders than bail folks out. Plan to get a 240v plug or run a 10g cord with new ends off your dryer plug.

It is possible to buy a 120V 30amp breaker, perhaps that would work better.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

There is a new 210ST on the way. Well actually there a few new model Powerarcs on the way. I could have gotten one for you, but with the low amount we have left visible on the inventory sheet, I imagine that we are now down to 0. Inventory update is running a little behind because we have moved to a larger facility and the updates got behind. I'm showing 6 left 3 days ago. Probably could have gotten a better price. Next model available should be the 210STi.

 

[Ritothebull]

Any idea when the 210sti will be available?
Thanks

 

[RNeumann]

It is possible to buy a 120V 30amp breaker, perhaps that would work better.

Yes that would help. But by code you would also need the correct sized wire too- I never seen a 120v circuit that was designed for 20a with oversized (10g copper) in it. That doesn’t mean folks haven’t done it- it’s just not code.
I did run a 30a 120v circuit for a 120v only welder. But if you are going through the trouble to add a circuit for a 120/240 welder I’d just add the 240.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

No, there is no violation to have a 30 amp breaker on a 15/20 amp receptacle, if it is inrush current (for a duty cycle limited welder). The conductor size is based off the I1eff current, not the I1max

 

[fried1765]

No, there is no violation to have a 30 amp breaker on a 15/20 amp receptacle, if it is inrush current (for a duty cycle limited welder). The conductor size is based off the I1eff current, not the I1max

Thank you for clearing that up!
A 120V/30A breaker with #12 wire, and 20A receptacle, is exactly what I am using with my I-MIG 140E.
But......until now, I did not know if it was legal.

 

[RandyT]

I purchases a Hobart Stickmate 160i (27.4 max amp according to the book) few weeks ago and on the 220v side requires a 30 amp slow blow fuse type system. Minimum wiring size requirement is 14 according to owners manual

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Cabin,
Our units go under the scrutiny of ETL for conformance to codes and safety. I think we are saying the same or similar things. I am definitely not an electrician, but I like using it to join metal. However, I do know, with 120V circuits, most people are not installing a circuit to operate it on, and it is already existing. It's a catch 22 really. All welder companies operate their 120V units over 20 amps, if the are indeed putting out the maximum 120V amperage advertised. Some companies still insist on using a "rated" amperage instead of stating separate inrush(I1max) and operating currents at max output (I1eff), I guess in an effort to skirt this issue, and put a low duty cycle on their unit at a lower rated output than the unit is capable of putting out. For example and 140A transformer MIG is typically rated at or around 20 amps at an output "rating" of 90A at 20% duty cycle. But they say it puts out 140A. And it still has a 15 amp plug and people report much higher duty cycles than rated:confused3: I had a electrician bawl me out the other day for not having a rated amperage and didn't understand the separate ratings. Well, that wasn't the first time and it is a constant issue with electricians not knowing anything about article 630 for 240V operation. Hardly ever get one involving a licensed electrician installing a 120V plug for the unit. When I do, I tell them to wire the plug for the inrush if they have any doubt, which would be a 30 amp 120V receptacle and rewire, or adapt the 240V plug. I always tell customers, (as recently as yesterday) to consult a local licensed electrician for their units. What customers end up doing is ultimately up to them. The manual tells them to, and I tell them to. Customers aren't always going to be happy with that and do get frustrated by my lack of giving advice on these things other than to talk with a qualified electrical person.

 

[Birdhunter1]

I wired a 110V 30 amp outlet next to my 240V welder outlet in my shop just for my iMig140, used #10 copper wire in conduit with the highest rated 110 receptacle I could find, never once tripped it and it works great. I often end up plugging my chop saw into it as it will often trip a 20 amp breaker at startup.

 

[Ritothebull]

Now that we've gotten all that out of the way :shocked:, when will the new 210st be available.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Hi Mark,

That was the intended point of my initial post, though I could have stated more clearly; the welder will work on a 15amp or 20amp convenience circuit if there aren't too many other concurrent loads. Since the circuit is existing who will enforce whether it is a technical violation of use? From a practical safety perspective, if the load gets too high the breaker should trip. And if hiring an electrician to install a proper, fully code-compliant circuit one might as well pay the nominal difference for a 240v circuit and reap the added benefit of improved performance.

I agree about the 240V, but you'd be surprised at the number of people still operating and living out of facilities/houses with 100 amp fuse panels...or less. A lot of generators too.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Now that we've gotten all that out of the way :shocked:, when will the new 210st be available.

At the risk of being a smarty pants: when it arrives. In production now.