Error code 008 NX4510

[countrybumpkin]

The inner filter is basically a safety filter in case something gets past the outer primary one. The NX comes with the primary filter only and no inner safety filter. The inner filter pushes into the plastic housing first then the primary goes over the inner filter and seals into the housing.

 

[YLee Kioti]

The inner filter is basically a safety filter in case something gets past the outer primary one. The NX comes with the primary filter only and no inner safety filter. The inner filter pushes into the plastic housing first then the primary goes over the inner filter and seals into the housing. View attachment 625267

TY...makes sense......now.....:thumbsup:

 

[JimR]

I found this today just in case anybody owns an older NX series tractor. Kioti did upgrade the injectors as of 2015. All models use the same Rail. Early injection pump is F6800-12103. 2015 and up uses injection pump is F6800-12104. The 2015 and up use a different fuel injector. Part number F6805-53001. The early model NX series use part number F6800-53003. There must have been issues with the early model injectors and pumps. http://demss.co.kr/dossfile/bulletintest/TRACTOR/Upgrade_Information_for_the_change_of_DDR_file.pdf

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I found this today just in case anybody owns an older NX series tractor. Kioti did upgrade the injectors as of 2015. All models use the same Rail. Early injection pump is F6800-12103. 2015 and up uses injection pump is F6800-12104. The 2015 and up use a different fuel injector. Part Number F6805-53001. The early model NX series use part number F6800-53003. There must have been issues with the early model injectors and pumps. http://demss.co.kr/dossfile/bulletintest/TRACTOR/Upgrade_Information_for_the_change_of_DDR_file.pdf

I remember looking into Daedong/Kioti rebuild kits for our injectors. The F6805-53001 part number translates into a Delphi 28387256 part number. The following link provides part numbers for rebuilding the Delphi injectors used in the NX and RX series which use a 4 cylinder version of the NX three-cylinder engine. 28387256, Injector CR, Common Rail system DELPHI

Trouble is that we cannot program the lousy ECU even if we rebuild or replace our own injectors.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Yep that’s the aggravating thing about it for sure, do you happen to know if the other brands are that way too? I have really been thinking about trading tractors for a hydro trans , have a standard shuttle now, and my uses are starting to switch to stuff where a hydro would be a bit more useful.

 

[JimR]

Yep that’s the aggravating thing about it for sure, do you happen to know if the other brands are that way too? I have really been thinking about trading tractors for a hydro trans , have a standard shuttle now, and my uses are starting to switch to stuff where a hydro would be a bit more useful.

I can't answer that. I knew about the Delphi injectors. They are also over a $100.00 cheaper than the Kioti injectors. They make both. Not sure why you would need to program a rebuilt injector if you put it back into the same cylinder. I can understand programming new one.

 

[JimR]

I remember looking into Daedong/Kioti rebuild kits for our injectors. The F6805-53001 part number translates into a Delphi 28387256 part number. The following link provides part numbers for rebuilding the Delphi injectors used in the NX and RX series which use a 4 cylinder version of the NX three-cylinder engine. 28387256, Injector CR, Common Rail system DELPHI

Trouble is that we cannot program the lousy ECU even if we rebuild or replace our own injectors.

Why do you need to program a rebuilt injector if all you do is change out the guts?

 

[JimR]

I was reading a Kubota thread where there are some Kubotas having similar issues as mine. It seems that some of them are leaking oil by the valves. I wonder f that is why my turbo pipe to the intake is wet with a black oily film. The dealer told me that is normal. Has anyone pulled that rubber hose off the top of the turbo and looked inside of it?

 

[JimR]

I asked the dealer today to contact the Kioti Rep. about replacing the bad injector. He replied, "scanning the tractor with a computer. Long wait with Kioti 4 weeks out on parts orders due to the computer hack. Well keep you posted" Based on this info I will be out of my tractor for at least 4 more weeks. I did mention to him that people are getting parts from Michigan Iron. Not a very happy camper right now. To think this all started with a bad throttle switch at around 340 hours. Since then it has been all downhill.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Why do you need to program a rebuilt injector if all you do is change out the guts?

Good point. I lose my mind once in a while.

 

[JimR]

Good point. I lose my mind once in a while.

I figured it was just a senior moment, LOL

 

[JimR]

The parts for my tractor have been ordered as of last week. Not sure as to what was ordered yet. That is a step that I hope resolves this problem for good.

 

[coobie]

The parts for my tractor have been ordered as of last week. Not sure as to what was ordered yet. That is a step that I hope resolves this problem for good.

Hope you get your issue resolved ASAP.Good Luck.

 

[JimR]

Hope you get your issue resolved ASAP.Good Luck.

Two more weeks have gone by and no good news to report. Obviously my parts have yet to arrive or I am on the back burner for getting my tractor fixed. I did send the service dealer a message last Thursday and never got a reply. Kioti really needs to get its sh-t together when it comes to warranty work and fixing a re-occurring problem like this. Kioti, I hope you are reading this.

 

[YLee Kioti]

I had to bring my tractor back last week in order to cut property for a commercial site.
Dealer ordered a MLS valve to correct the 3PH jumping.
His system said it was in stock and Kioti said they had zero in stock.
Was told Kioti had to replace all servers, and desktops due to the hacking and have to finish sync of factory database with dealer systems.

It does appear that Kioti has lots of room for improvement when it come to caring for their prime source of business, customer service!
Valve should be in on the 12th. Now just waiting for the call.
Since I'm a cold weather wuss, the machine will be trailered when the weather gets up to a balmy 50 degrees or so....heh....

 

[JimR]

Interesting on the computer issue now. Over 2 weeks ago I was able to find and pull up their dealer login page. I didn't know any passwords so I couldn,t log in. I did however try just for the sake of trying.

 

[justman777]

Have to say, for a global company to be down for any extended period of time because of a computer hack is simply....unacceptable. They obviously haven't been putting their money into computer security, and their disaster recovery plan...nicely put...is less than adequate. Think of how much money they're loosing in lost business, and then erosion of customer trust that is very, very hard to gain back. Guess spending all that money on IT security and an adequate disaster recovery plan or business continuity plan is looking pretty cheap now by comparison, huh?

 

[JimR]

Have to say, for a global company to be down for any extended period of time because of a computer hack is simply....unacceptable. They obviously haven't been putting their money into computer security, and their disaster recovery plan...nicely put...is less than adequate. Think of how much money they're loosing in lost business, and then erosion of customer trust that is very, very hard to gain back. Guess spending all that money on IT security and an adequate disaster recovery plan or business continuity plan is looking pretty cheap now by comparison, huh?

My thoughts exactly. I know I am pretty fed up after my experiences
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[YLee Kioti]

Kioti (not dealers) in my limited exposure is also unresponsive to customer inquiries.

I still believe the Kioti machine itself is a great value, head to head specs with others on many levels.
However, their business model, customer service appears to run by a culture that failed basic business school instructions.
OK, rant over......we know that no factory machine color reads our posts......but it helps to vent at times.....

Now my work is complete, did the winter cut for customer. So whenever the MLS valve comes in.......hang in there fellas.....
Maybe Kioti will wake up, if enough customers tell the dealers how the factory is on the losing end......

 

[JoelD]

I’ve been thinking about Kioti and the other brands lately. I have a 2004 lk3054xs TLB. I have 450 hours and I’ve mostly stored under cover. I purchased with 150 hours in 2008 or so. I’ve replaced every backhoe valve seal and I have small leak in front axle housing seal and rear axle housing gasket. I’ve replaced negative battery cable and a hose on injector pump and of course filters and lubricants. And my PTO clutch is tough to disengage and typically the PTO keeps spinning wether or not I press pedal to full extension. In the end I’ve had it apart a bunch of times for the valve body seals on the backhoe other than that nothing overly serious. In comparison I had a Kubota B6000e, which was 30 or more years old and god only knows how many hours. I changed an idler pulley on fan belt and that was it. The thing was pretty much indestructible and the loader had no hydraulic leaks of any kind. And I ran motor oil or the like for hydraulic fluid maybe power steering fluid, can’t remember. Interesting how bullet proof the Japanese build machines can be.