Engaging the PTO?

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mattallen

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Hello all - long time lurker first time poster. I've had my CK27 for a few years now and never really used any PTO attachments until last summer. Is there anything special I need to do before engaging the PTO? I was using a brush hog and when I would try to pull the PTO lever back it would grind. I had my foot on the clutch and the engine was at a low idle. Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with the tractor itself? Also I've noticed my ignition switch seems to be getting "touchy". If I turn the key the whole way to the right I get nothing. But if I only turn it halfway it catches. It wasn't like that when I got it. Thanks for any input!
 
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Hello all - long time lurker first time poster. I've had my CK27 for a few years now and never really used any PTO attachments until last summer. Is there anything special I need to do before engaging the PTO? I was using a brush hog and when I would try to pull the PTO lever back it would grind. I had my foot on the clutch and the engine was at a low idle. Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with the tractor itself? Also I've noticed my ignition switch seems to be getting "touchy". If I turn the key the whole way to the right I get nothing. But if I only turn it halfway it catches. It wasn't like that when I got it. Thanks for any input!
I don't know if you have an independent pto or not. Was the tractor moving at all when you tried to shift. That could have been your problem if its isn't independent PTO, you have to be completely stopped to shift into gear with the PTO. Next, Make sure that you have the clutch fully depressed. Most tractors will have a 2 stage clutch that stops the tractor before stopping the PTO. This also could be your problem also not fully engaging the clutch so that it stops the PTO and not just the tractor.
You need to make sure you don't have the tractor at too high of RPM. You want to have it just high enough so that when you let of the clutch slowly (very slowly)it doesn't stall the engine. In most cases that is somewhere between 1100 and 1500 RPM, the lower the RPM, the easier it is on the tractor.
As for your key switch, sound like the water is corroding the contacts. Try putting some electrical contact cleaner in it via a spray can. Once you get it cleaned up, some spray lithium grease might be in order if you store it outside a lot. I keep my tractors under a shed so rain is not a problem and never had any issues with switches. If the switch gets really troublesome, just get a replacement, takes only a few minutes to swap them out if you get an OEM replacement.
 
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I don't know if you have an independent pto or not. Was the tractor moving at all when you tried to shift. That could have been your problem if its isn't independent PTO, you have to be completely stopped to shift into gear with the PTO. Next, Make sure that you have the clutch fully depressed. Most tractors will have a 2 stage clutch that stops the tractor before stopping the PTO. This also could be your problem also not fully engaging the clutch so that it stops the PTO and not just the tractor.
You need to make sure you don't have the tractor at too high of RPM. You want to have it just high enough so that when you let of the clutch slowly (very slowly)it doesn't stall the engine. In most cases that is somewhere between 1100 and 1500 RPM, the lower the RPM, the easier it is on the tractor.
As for your key switch, sound like the water is corroding the contacts. Try putting some electrical contact cleaner in it via a spray can. Once you get it cleaned up, some spray lithium grease might be in order if you store it outside a lot. I keep my tractors under a shed so rain is not a problem and never had any issues with switches. If the switch gets really troublesome, just get a replacement, takes only a few minutes to swap them out if you get an OEM replacement.

Thank you for the quick reply! Yes the tractor was stopped. I'm not sure about the exact RPM's but I know I cut it way back. I'm pretty sure the clutch was engaged the whole way to the floor. I'll try it next time and pay extra attention to these details! Thanks!

I have my tractor stored in a building that is completely enclosed. I do occasionally leave it out over night etc but that has only amounted to a few weeks time over the life of the tractor. However, I have no idea how long it sat on the lot before I bought it new. I will definitely try your suggestions. Thanks again!
 
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If you have the old style ignition switch, Your dealer can get you
the switch cover they they came out with to cover the switch when
not in use.
 
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Welcome from Wisconsin

Thanks! :)


If you have the old style ignition switch, Your dealer can get you
the switch cover they they came out with to cover the switch when
not in use.

It actually has the cover (though it broke off) but like I said - it's been in a building since I got it. Are you suggesting I spray right down into where the key actually goes in? Or do I need to remove the whole assembly? Looked at it today . . . looks like removing that would be less than fun! Ha!
 
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Thanks! :)




It actually has the cover (though it broke off) but like I said - it's been in a building since I got it. Are you suggesting I spray right down into where the key actually goes in? Or do I need to remove the whole assembly? Looked at it today . . . looks like removing that would be less than fun! Ha!

I sprayed Fluid Film in mine twice and it cleared up the touchy key switch,, No problems now for over a year and a half . Just spray it in where the key goes, and shove the key in and work it several times. it will leak into the contact area of the switch. Do it again a while later after you have used the tractor some.. It sure fixed mine.
 
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I sprayed Fluid Film in mine twice and it cleared up the touchy key switch,, No problems now for over a year and a half . Just spray it in where the key goes, and shove the key in and work it several times. it will leak into the contact area of the switch. Do it again a while later after you have used the tractor some.. It sure fixed mine.

Excellent! Thank you!
 
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If you want a temporary cover I found that a cap from a pint bottle of water fit nicely. My dealer replaced my old switch with the newer type which does not require a separate cover, this was done as a result of a recall on the older switch assembly.
 

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