For those days that I don't happen to have on my loader or backhoe, it would be nice to hook onto a tree and pull myself out of a mud bog with an electric winch. Even with 4 wheel drive on a JD3120, it's amazing how easy it is to get stuck with this thing. I have the idea to mount an electric winch to the front base plate. If anyone has done this, I would appreciate you sharing pictures, information regarding electrical connections or requirements, minimum winch size, etc...
Electric Winch Advice
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mopacman
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When stuck in mud it can take a winch two or three times the weight of your tractor to pull you out. I have been told that a winch on the front is to take you some place you should not go. A winch on the back is to pull you out of some place you should not of went. I think that is a good idea but I would make it so I could move it to either place.........Larry
albmn10
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Hello Deere, I mounted a 8000lb Warn winch to my brush guard, i have a pic under another current thread of my tractor in the Kioti room. That pic was taken before i finished the mounting. What i did was built a small frame and attached the winch to the top of my brushguard, bolted it down with all grade 8 hardware and then used two 5/16 chains, one on each side of the brush guard back to the loader frame. I found a nice coated ( orange ) chain at Home Depot that acutally came out pretty neat. Sorry i dont have a pic of the finished product but you get the idea. The shear strenth of the hardware is probably 2 times more then my winch is rated for. The thing you have to be careful of is clearence from the loader of the winch hook when not in use. I managed to fit mine in pretty well. Perhaps this weekend i can take a few pics... Matt
RollTideRam
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You might want to look at the specs of the winch you want, and see what the amp draw is. Also look and see what kind of amps your alternator puts out. I have a quick mount winch on my Suzuki Samurai, that weighs a little over 3k. I use a bigger battery than what came in my tractor and have a 105 amp gm alternator. When pulling, I have to pull several feet then stop to let the battery recharge. Another winch you might look at is the MileMarker hydraulic winch. JC
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I'd make sure that your tractor's electric system is up to the task.
Cost wise, you might be better off getting a 2T or bigger come-a-long and some chain. I have one just in case, and have used it on my CK25 to pull the tractor back up onto the road bed it just slid off of. Mine's decently constructed and cost $50 at Lowes.
Cost wise, you might be better off getting a 2T or bigger come-a-long and some chain. I have one just in case, and have used it on my CK25 to pull the tractor back up onto the road bed it just slid off of. Mine's decently constructed and cost $50 at Lowes.
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sandman2234
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I am also not a big fan of electric winches on a tractor. Way too hard on the electrical system, even for minor use. The best way is to go with a hydraulic winch, since you have plenty of that on your tractor.
David from jax
David from jax
I have a superwinch 2000 on my atv and use it all the time when plowing to raise and lower the plow. Works great i have also used it to pull my tractor out of trouble when getting stuck. I don't notice any electrical issues when using the winch. Also if you get a winck get one that is aited for a atv these types use less power . So the electrical demand will not be great.
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cubowner said:
The electrical demand is not that great because the pull is ~2500lbs for a LARGE ATV winch. Such a winch is not even close to suitable for a tractor the size of a 3120.
I do like the idea of a hydraulic winch, never really thought of that. It'd be easy to rig something up to use off of one of your remotes...
To answer the OP's question about sizing... Warn Winch claims that the minimum winch size for a truck should be 1.5x the weight of the vehicle. That's the minimum. Most applications its better to be in the 2x range.
daBear
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I welded a 2" step bumper receiver to the brush guard on my L2800 and use 350 amp forklift Anderson connectors to plug it in. I use a small Warn Works 3700 winch for pulling me out of a hole which is does a wonderful job of, and an off brand Champion 8500# to pull trees down. I put a 300 amp DC breaker in the circuit next to the battery and I have used this setup many times without ill effects on my tractor. Doesn't even dim the lights when they are on and I engage the winch. Search the photo gallery under my name for pictures of me pulling a small pine down.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/4480/sort/1/size/medium/cat/529/page/
An added bonus is the 2" receiver on my truck which is two wheel drive and now I can move the winch which is mounted on a 2" base plate that fits into the receiver and pull my truck out. I have the same setup with a step bumper receiver mounted on my 16' utility trailer and use it winch loads up and hold them down.
I will try and take some additional pictures this afternoon if it is not raining too hard here in Mississippi and show the three setups. Tractor, truck and trailer.
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http://www.tractorbynet.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/4480/sort/1/size/medium/cat/529/page/
An added bonus is the 2" receiver on my truck which is two wheel drive and now I can move the winch which is mounted on a 2" base plate that fits into the receiver and pull my truck out. I have the same setup with a step bumper receiver mounted on my 16' utility trailer and use it winch loads up and hold them down.
I will try and take some additional pictures this afternoon if it is not raining too hard here in Mississippi and show the three setups. Tractor, truck and trailer.
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sandman2234
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I would not be surprised if the Superwinch T2000 is rated at 2000 pounds single line for rolling stock. Or in other words, it won't pull a 2000 pound tractor out of the mud. No way, no how, not under it's own power. Granted they are better than a sharp stick in your eye, but I have owned several and they are rated a lot higher than their ability to lift/pull when it comes to the real world. I used several on a jib-crane that I have. It came with one and double line it wouldn't pick up 2500 pounds. It would pull about 3500 in rolling stock double line, so I figure that is how they came up with their rating.
For you guys with ATV sized tractors, have at them, as they will probably be ok for small tractor use, but for me and my tractors, I will go with hydraulics.
David from jax
For you guys with ATV sized tractors, have at them, as they will probably be ok for small tractor use, but for me and my tractors, I will go with hydraulics.
David from jax
daBear
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Well hydraulics are nice if you have them but to add a hydraulic anything is expensive. My Warn works cost $150 on ebay and the Champion 8500 was about the same at Sam's club. Add a $20 receiver and a little wending and you are in business for much less than $200. My L2800 weighs in around 2300# or so (did not look it up) and I have had it belly up and over the axles in mud and the little Warn pulled it out without a strain. I would not opt for an ATV winch but when I am stuck the winch just does not work that hard when the tractor is in gear and pulling with all fours also. It is certainly not like pulling dead weight of the tractor.
daBear
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deererunr said:
Huuuuh? We wuz speaking of winches, where did exhaust come from?
rdbrumfield
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I mounted an 8000lb hyd unit permanently into my loader frame. It has become one of the most useful add ons I have ever done. Never have to worry about power. I have only used it once to pull myself out, but sure have used it for others. Just having the ability to have an adjustable line up there for loading equipment on the truck is a big deal. also for picking odd things that don't want to stay in the bucket. Just suck them in tight and go.
Thanks for the replies on the winch. Like many of the people on this site, I'll be welding a 2" receiver on the top of the loader bucket, and bought the adapter for a receiver on the rear. Warn makes a nice winch mount that fits into a standard 2" receiver. Based on what I've read, I'm a little concerned about overtaxing the electrical system. I may start out by exploring the simple come-along option. Thanks again for the input.
daBear
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I am no electrical expert but the winch is hooked to be tractor battery and has a fuse in line just before the battery. The winch will work with the tractor shut off. How is going to hurt the electrical system of the tractor??? You can run the winch until the battery runs down if you wanted to and be of no harm to the tractor. Other than you have to jump it off and will feel a little dim for doing that. Please explain "harm to the electrical system".
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