N 80////The way I look at it, if it isn't your money and you didn't do or sell anything to earn it then its a handout. Based on that I would say you are correct. My point was in my orginal post, [participating in that crop] $help is provided to ensure or assist farms to be profitable/ I never said anything about the landowners who reap free $ and who do not grow crops and have no active interest in doing so. Yep , that is a handout.