EarthForce EF-5 enhancements

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MossRoad - That's the storage position of the safety arm that locks the loader in the raised position for maintenance.

MarkC
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Another view of the pallet with the quick attach, ripper tooth, and auger quick attach plate on it. If you look closely at the ripper tooth, you can see the pin that holds an attachment to the quick attach.

For a size perspective, the ripper tooth is 1" thick plate.

MarkC
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Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus!

Mark, I was beginning to think you'd never get that Earthforce. That is quite a machine. I will be looking forward to the pictures of you running it on your property!

Dave "Gatorboy" Hoffmann
 
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Wow Mark, that is one impressive machine. When do you get to "play" with it /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

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MChalkley
That is a GREAT lookin' setup/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Not requesting any info for the moment...GO PLAY W/ IT!!
Then..in about a half hour...get some new pics and keep us informed/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
regards
Mutt
 
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Dave, Rob, Mutt - Thanks, guys! Unfortunately, I have a lot of catch-up to do after being gone five days, so I'm afraid the EF-5 won't even get unloaded from the trailer today and maybe not tomorrow. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif Among the things on the list today is that I'm serving as pall-bearer at the funeral of a friend who died while I was gone. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

While I'm out running some errands, though, I'm going to pick up some paint for the brackets and some bolts to hold the lights in the brackets. So, that'll be tractor-related, but not quite the same, of course.

MarkC
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Mark -

I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. This is a very tough time of year to be going to a funeral. My condolences to the family.

I don't want to turn this thread into a downer, though. Sometimes it is better to look forward instead of backwards, and it sounds like you (and vicariously us) have much to look forward to now. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

I don't think there has ever been more buildup or drama in the purchase of a new tractor in the history of TBN. And I ain't so sure you didn't plan it that way. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

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Harv - Thanks for the message. Funerals are always hard. I'm closer to the daughter and grandchildren of the deceased than I was to him personally. That's actually harder for me than if it were the other way around - I can deal with my own grief in my own way and time, but consoling someone else always generates feelings of extreme helplessness. There's just not much that you can do, besides just being there for them.

But enough of that, as you said. Forward, onward, and upward. Or something like that.

Hmm, planned buildup and drama? Maybe I planned a little, but if I did, the joke turned out to be on me, because I sure didn't plan to switch from PowerTrac to EarthForce, and I sure didn't plan for it to take so long for me to get my hands on the EF-5. But I did get some free goodies out of the delay (like almost $3k worth of cab & heater...), so I'm definitely not complaining. Of course, all you guys who were beginning to think I was making the whole thing up will have to re-think your position, too... /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

MarkC
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Here's a picture of the "chain dogs", as the guys at D&E call them, that I had welded to the back side of the loader quick-attach plate. This picture shows the one on the right side of the tractor - there's one in the same spot on the left side, too. I wanted one in the middle as well, but it kept trying to snag the 4-in-1 hoses, so I had to settle for the two on the sides.

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Here's a picture of one of the light brackets D&E made for me.

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Mark,

I’ll add my congratulations to the list and thanks for sharing all of the photos. It sure looks like D&E does some nice work. Without asking specific prices, did you feel like they were reasonable for the quality of work they did for you?

Happy Holidays

MarkV
 
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Harv - Not much bark, but serious bite... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

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Mark - Thanks! I was very impressed with the work D&E did. They make a lot of the OEM buckets for some of the biggest construction equipment names in the business, but of course those buckets don't have the D&E name on them.

I was just as impressed by the fact that they're willing to do custom work on what is to them relatively very small stuff. My EF-5 was about 1/5 the size of the next smallest piece of equipment that D&E worked on while we were there. There were some huge excavators, even some attachments that weighed more than my entire machine. It was an incredible experience just hanging around that place. Most amazing of all, they even told me I could come back if I had something else I needed them to do! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

As for the quality of the stuff, the pictures pretty much speak for themselves, but you really can't get a good sense of how solidly they build everything they do.

As for price, I felt I definitely got my money's worth. I paid $20 apiece for the chain dogs, which I thought was fair, since they had to draw them in CAD, then put that into their computer-controlled plasma cutter. I'm sure that if somebody in China made 10,000 of them, I could get them for $5 each, but that's not what happened. The custom work - light brackets, chain eyes, welding the chain dogs on, cup holder, etc. - cost me a little under $1k total for design, materials, fabrication, attaching them to the EF-5, everything. Again, a very fair price, I thought, considering the fact that it was all custom and very small quantity.

Where I think I really made out like a bandit was in the cost of the attachments themselves. I paid $5k for the high-capacity loader bucket, a custom quick-attach coupler for the backhoe, 18" and 24" backhoe buckets and ripper tooth designed to work with the quick-attach, a custom-designed backhoe thumb and the labor to attach it to the EF-5, and a quick-attach adapter to mate the McMillen auger head to the backhoe quick-attach. We're talking close to 2500 pounds of materials here, excellent workmanship, plus quite a bit of custom design work, so I think it was a steal. I'm sure I wouldn't have gotten that pricing if I hadn't also had the other stuff as part of the deal, but no matter, they treated me extremely well, I think. (I think I'd have paid admission just to see their operation, but don't tell them that!)

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Mark,

It sounds to me like you got an excellent deal from D&E. Considering all the custom work and design I would have expected a higher price tag. I also think it is hard to put a value on the fact that they worked with your schedule to get things mounted. Sure is nice to run into quality work, good service and reasonable prices now and then. Seems to get harder all the time.

Happy Holidays

MarkV
 
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Re: EarthForce EF-3 & 4, and EF-5 enhancements

Mark:
I'm switching back to this thread to move back from philosophy to mechanics. Any progress mounting the hydraulic pto motor on the Kasco hitch? If it works out, and I get a PowerTrac, I'll be looking for a slightly smaller version of the same idea -- for 12 to 15 gpm rather than 20+
 
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Re: EarthForce EF-3 & 4, and EF-5 enhancements

Charlie - Not yet, but I'll definitely keep you posted. It's been too cold to do any real work - I've only been doing play stuff that I can do from the seat. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Plus, it's not time to till the garden yet...

I hope you can find a motor that meets the parameters you need - the one I bought from from Surplus Center is the only one I've seen.
 
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Re: Sound deadening

After using the EF-5 most of the day today doing pretty high effort work (pushing over/pulling up brush and small trees), I've decided that some form of sound dampening mat for the floor is definitely in order. The high pitched sould of the hydraulic pumps and motors located right beneath the cab will make your ears ring after a few hours of it.

I was wondering if some kind of heavy rubber floor mat, like the kind they use in factories for cushioning where people stand all day, would work, if I cut one to fit. Would something like that be effective? Any ideas on what would be the best thing to use and where I could find a source for it? It has to removeable, because there are several access plates that have to be taken up for repairs, etc.
 
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Re: Sound deadening

Tractor Supply Co. sells those mats in my area. They're considerably thicker than most rubber floor mats for cars, pickups, and tractors, but if it didn't interfere with any pedals, or make you feel like the seat was too low, sure seems to me that it ought to work well.
 
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Re: Sound deadening

Mark,
You may want to check out Global Industrial equipment. (800.645.1232). They have a website but it doesn't appear to have the mats. The catalog shows a diamond plate design called "cushion trax" that has a non-absorbent sponge base and is about a half inch thick. A bit pricey though - $11.25/foot in the 2 foot width (comes in 2,3 and 4' widths). Looks pretty slick though - even comes with orange, green or yellow stripes (sorry blue guys). Another thought would be find a buddy at the local utility company. The orange rubber sheets that they use around high voltage lines are pretty resilient if I remember correctly. You might be able to get some that have failed the high voltage tests - but would be great as a floor mat (with something to protect them on top).
 

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