Oil & Fuel draining fuel filter

[navyjoe]

I just got a lot of water in my fuel tank. I've had to remove and drain my filter 3 times in an hour. Is there a bowl anywhere that has a drain petcock in the bottom so I don't have to remove the bowl everytime to drain the water??

 

[RickB]

Not that I am aware of. Do yourself (and your tractor) a favor and drain the tank completely and refill with fresh fuel and a new fuel filter.

 

[LBrown59]

Not that I am aware of. Do yourself (and your tractor) a favor and drain the tank completely and refill with fresh fuel and a new fuel filter.

good idea.

 

[navyjoe]

I posted a reply but apparently it got lost so If 2 show up forgive me.

First I have a TC35. Forgot to mention that.

As for draining the fuel tank, 13 gallons. Thats not a straight forward task. There is no cutoff valve in that line that I can see. Also the exit from the tank isn't exactly at the low point of the tank. Its about 6 inches in from the side. Any ideas?

 

[IH3444]

Remove tank.

 

[Soundguy]

Rick, were the 'thousand series' IE.. models previous to the TC the last units to have the water seperator and the filter with water seperator built in, Plus a sediment bowl?

seems like a good feature to have deleted.

soundguy

 

[thclimer]

I understand your concern with 13 gallons running all out at once, is there anyway you could siphon it out with long tube. Worst case is you could always put your finger over the end of the long tube as you move from one 5-gallon container to another, you are also probably going need three 5-gallon containers. Hope you'er able to get it all out.

 

[LBrown59]

I understand your concern with 13 gallons running all out at once, is there anyway you could siphon it out with long tube. Worst case is you could always put your finger over the end of the long tube as you move from one 5-gallon container to another, you are also probably going need three 5-gallon containers. Hope you'er able to get it all out.

I would pump the fuel out of the tank with this
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[horsinaround]

or worst case, put some fuel treatment in it that disipates the water. Like I said, that is the worst case. Best option is to drain the tank. or at least drain it until water stops coming out. The water will go to the low point of the tank if you let it sit for 12 hours or so.

 

[RickB]

I posted a reply but apparently it got lost so If 2 show up forgive me.

First I have a TC35. Forgot to mention that.

As for draining the fuel tank, 13 gallons. Thats not a straight forward task. There is no cutoff valve in that line that I can see. Also the exit from the tank isn't exactly at the low point of the tank. Its about 6 inches in from the side. Any ideas?

The quantity is immaterial; the contamination is the problem. The outlet of the tank is most certainly at the bottom, it is flat. You don't need a valve, remove the clamp from the hose entering the filter head, pull the hose off and stick it in a funnel directing the fluid (I won't call it fuel) into the proper number of containers. If you are real fussy, clamp a pair of visegrips or similar locking pliers over the fuel line while you remove it from the fuel filter head and get it situated where you need it. It's about as straightforward as anything can be. I just did one a couple weeks ago.

 

[RickB]

Rick, were the 'thousand series' IE.. models previous to the TC the last units to have the water seperator and the filter with water seperator built in, Plus a sediment bowl?

seems like a good feature to have deleted.

soundguy

Not sure what you mean, Chris. Every Ford and New Holland compact has a paper cartridge fuel filter element housed in a plastic bowl retained by a pot metal nut. The tractor in question (TC35) uses the same filter, filter head, and bowl as the 1920 you used to own.

 

[JC-jetro]

No way to dump water/condensation without taking the bowl off. A drain would have been good.


JC,

 

[navyjoe]

I would pump the fuel out of the tank with this
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Now thats the way to go! What a setup. Load that rig up and bring it by my place.

 

[navyjoe]

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I will be applying several of them in the next few days.
I am tempted to buy an extra fuel bowl and tap it then installing a fitting that would allow me to replace the regular one temporarly so I can do a controlled drain using the valve on the the filter housing. Either that or put some kind of "T" in that fuel line coming from the tank with a valve.
I'll be pondering all of this over for several months until I come up with something to make it easier. I figure if I spend a couple of hundred bucks for some future solution that will probably gurantee it will never happen again.

 

[Soundguy]

Not sure what you mean, Chris. Every Ford and New Holland compact has a paper cartridge fuel filter element housed in a plastic bowl retained by a pot metal nut. The tractor in question (TC35) uses the same filter, filter head, and bowl as the 1920 you used to own.

For instance.. my 7610s has the clear bowl I can remove and clean / dump.. but my fuel filter element is a single element style, loads from the bottom up and then has a twist-ring to retain, that actually lock in near the top of the element.. nothing retaining it on the bottom. On the bottom of that element is a black plug, with a nipple on it.. twist a lil and you can drain the contents setting on the bottom of the filter.. like water.. there is also another resevoir before that element hat has a small knob/nipple.. again.. twist and you can drain fuel there...etc... I like that setup vs the single or dual 'clamp in' elements ( napa 3166 ) that have the lil bottom cup as a retainer... IE.. the one my 5000 and 3000 uses.

I guess these various drains i see may simply be there to help facilitate bleeding the fuel system??.. however.. they happen to be great water traps / drains.

I've had a wet load of fuel before, of course I ditched my canister element and the fuel.. but when I was reloading fuel and repriming the system ( like the electric fuel pump and bleeder there ).. all those lil screw open nipples were great for getting the last bits of old / wet fuel out.

I think I see the issue now.. the previous poster stated he was looking for an easier way to dewater vs draining the filter.. for some reason I wasn't envisioning the single bowl / small filter element style.. vs the larger canister style. It's been 5ys since i'v changed the fuel filter on that 1920.. I plumb forgot!


soundguy

 

[RickB]

I'll be pondering all of this over for several months until I come up with something to make it easier. I figure if I spend a couple of hundred bucks for some future solution that will probably gurantee it will never happen again.

The blind obvious solution is to keep your fuel uncontaminated. Not all that difficult, and it doesn't cost extra to do.

 

[LBrown59]

I figure if I spend a couple of hundred bucks for some future solution that will probably gurantee it will never happen again.

A couple hundred buscks wil pay about half the cost of this set up.
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The blind obvious solution is to keep your fuel uncontaminated. .

This set up has a water blocking filter to help accomplish that..

 

[navyjoe]

The blind obvious solution is to keep your fuel uncontaminated. Not all that difficult, and it doesn't cost extra to do.

Rick where this water came from is perplexing. Since this happened 30 minutes after I refilled the tank, the tank would seem to be the source. Yet I've pumped from this tank for 7 months without a problem. When I filled the tank this past winter I installed a new filter that is not supposed to pass water. I have a drain at the bottom of the tank to check for water and it runs clean, no water or debris present. I've been proactive in my efforts, but somehow it all failed me anyway.

 

[navyjoe]

A couple hundred buscks wil pay about half the cost of this set up.
.
This set up has a water blocking filter to help accomplish that..

That is a nice setup. Mine is much less sophisticated. It has a tuthill handpump but my filter looks to be almost identical. I noticed you have 3 tanks. Is there a special purpose there or are all three filled with fuel?

 

[Soundguy]

Rick where this water came from is perplexing. Since this happened 30 minutes after I refilled the tank, the tank would seem to be the source. Yet I've pumped from this tank for 7 months without a problem. When I filled the tank this past winter I installed a new filter that is not supposed to pass water. I have a drain at the bottom of the tank to check for water and it runs clean, no water or debris present. I've been proactive in my efforts, but somehow it all failed me anyway.

got any neighbors or kids that don't like ya in the area?

soundguy