down pressure?

[jiminpa]

does kubota tractors (grand L series)have any downpressure on the three point lift? looking at L3410 or L3710.

 

[JATO_RaT]

Jim, I have yet to use a tractor with down pressure at the 3 pt. hitch. Gravity is all I have ever had. I have however, used the tilting hydraulics to add down pressure to my boxscraper. Problem is, its limited in travel and limited to tractors that actually have tilt cylinders added. Rat...

 

[TomG]

I've heard that after-market down-pressure kits are available. A dealer should be able to locate one. However, I don't think many people would find one very useful very often. For many uses, simply putting some weight on top on an implement should do the trick.

 

[Billc]

Tom and Rat are right. There's no downward force on your 3 pt hitch. If you need more downward force, you add more weight to the implement.

Bill Cook

 

[gvw]

Hate to break the illusion of no down pressure but-- my IH 340 Utility will lift the rear wheels off the ground using the rear blade. I really wish that the "new" utility size tractors had this feature as it is great for doing grading and finish work. I also understand that some of the 100 hp+ units have this feature. For anybody that has tried to use a three point to dig post holes - down pressure is esential in hard material. You are simply not going to get the jopb done by stackin mom and the kids on top of the drill.

 

[jiminpa]

hey that's what i was doing with the old massey when that question hit me,post hole drilling.found a hard spot and can't go more than 20"down,even with me "rocking"the auger.took the teeth off and sharpend them,will see if it helped.still scrapping up money for a new tractor,looks like a L3410 will win.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I WASN'T ABLE TO PUT DOWN PRESSURE ON THE 3PH WHEN I DUG A HOLE WITH THE POST HOLE DIGGER ON MY B2710, BUT WHEN I RAISED THE FRONT OF THE TRACTOR WITH THE BUCKET, I BURIED THE AUGER! ALMOST LEFT IT THERE WITH A BUSH TO HIDE IT. NOW THATS DOWN PRESSURE /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[geneP]

GVW, I had a IH 340 Utility (about 1958 model?)until about 6 years ago. It also had power steering, live pto and a torque amplifier, but it didn't have position or draft control. I never tried to dig post holes with it, but putting down pressure on a disc or blade only made the wheels spin. I kept that tractor 15 years and got good use from it, but I really enjoy my more modern Kubota!!

Gene in MS

 

[gerard]

A post hole digger is the only application I can think of that down pressure would be useful (because the tractor's not moving). If you used downpressure for a dragged implement you also reduce your traction by the amount of down pressure you pick up. Thats why downpressure from the 3pt is not as effective as adding weight to the implement. As far as a post digger look at a previous post that explained how some people welded a large (2-3 inch OD) pipe to the post digger head, then inserted a long pipe into that and used the leverage to increase the down pressure. Seemed to be a pretty cheap and effective way to increase the down pressure.

 

[JATO_RaT]

Actually, I have a post hole digger that has a hydraulic ram on the top and it is configured in such a way that it will pivot the top of the digger with trememdous pressure via a valve (the one I use for the hydraulic rippers on my box scrapper). This also eliminates the down pressure of a 3pt hitch. Rat...

 

[john4nh]

Hey in response to the message suggesting usig levarage (pipe welded to head of ph and inserting pipe and pulling down) this is pretty dangerous for whoever you put on the pipe. when the auger bites and goes down potentially whoever is holding the pipe is in harms way. I doubt many of us would have the kind of reaction time to avoid injury. In response to the down pressure on the 3pt. all the industrial tractors I have operated with box blades have this feature with of course tilt etc. If you box blade alot this is a very good feature as is the hyd tilt. The poor boy way which is what i have is a piece of rail road iron welded on the top of my box blade. To control tire spin on units with down pressure the only answer I have is you have to operate your machine, this comes only with experience, you have to feel the tractor, and you gotta have a good eye. If this makes any sense to anyone..

 

[heehaw]

i've used the pipe stuck out from the post hole digger for leverage, it works great, but the pipe is @8-10ft past the digger to keep things safe; my wife has a cousin that got caught in a phd'er years ago..very bad situation; as for down pressure; it sure beats trying to jack up the tractor when you have a flat or get stuck;
heehaw

 

[john4nh]

heehaw i would probally be more receptive to that ideal as you have outlined. bottom line tractors arent toys they wil hurt you.. I have seen a professional operator digging on a 580 case have a cave in. when the ground gave the tractor went in the hole he was digging, he was thrown and ended up almost dieing. Broken back etc.

Down pressure is great.

 

[heehaw]

i "thought" international was the only tractors that had down pressure?? thats what i get for thinking..do the others that have it, have an external cylinder or is it done inside the tractor??
heehaw

 

[dullpain]

Looking for safe down pressure on a 3ph post hole digger. Go to ATTACHMENTS forum and look for "Danuser spindle" thread. You will find 2 posts from me with attached pictures.

 

[SHIFTY]

If your into belarus tractors,i have a 3045 4x4 which does have downpressure,great with rakes and scraper blades,Im selling this machine with loader AND 20 ORIGIONAL HOURS for 9500.firm,I also have a deere 950 4x4 w/loader and hoe 14400.bo