Dog People

[Mud Mechanik]

Electric fence about 8" off the ground:thumbsup:

 

[Western]

I would contact the county animal control or what ever jurisdiction your under, they may have an ordinance for that. I would also check with your local Law enforcement about the "finger", that often is classed as "vulgar" if someone is "offended", and you are VERY offended by it

If that doesnt work, get a couple of shetland ponys and walk them over to their yard...just sayin

 

[KTurner]

Several have politely asked them to not do this and they say OK and wait a week and come back and do it again.

I stopped the girl last week and told her in no uncertain terms to not let her dog sxxt in my yard.

I'm not defending what they're doing, just pointing out that the story has two sides. Your post is pretty harsh and you mention that other neighbors have discussed this situation with them politely, implying that you were NOT polite. That would, in his eyes, make you the jerk neighbor who created the situation by "verbally assaulting" his daughter. If you don't want to bother trying to come to terms with the neighbor, post a few no trespassing signs. Don't further escalate the situation in a manner that will get you in trouble (like many of the replies are suggesting).

Question #3: If I walk out to the road to talk to the guy and pull out a pistol and shoot the little mutt on the leash as it is pooping do you think I will get in trouble?

If you shot their dog while it was on the leash, they'd probably be legally justified in shooting you. I.e., "Officer, he raised his gun, pointed it in my direction and pulled the trigger. I don't know if he was aiming for me, the dog or what, but I feared for my life, so I defended myself"

Keith

 

[rekees4300]

I stopped the girl last week and told her in no uncertain terms to not let her dog sxxt in my yard.

That was a big mistake. You should have gone to the father face-to-face in private. When you "attacked" his little girl you escalated/switched the dispute from dog to daughter. That's why the whole family is mad at you.

 

[boggen]

there are many cities with ordinances / regs / laws. about cleaning up poop. they have doggie doo doo baggies. with various ways to carry on you for a reason.

check with city, check with the township, then check with county
also check with the local animal shelter.

there is most likely some sort of reg/law that requires animals to be under owners control. and/or stay on there property.

along with leash law.

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suggestion put up some no trespassing signs, and get some video / pictures. when i say video / pictures. not of just the poo in your yard. and zoomed in on it. but the actual dog/s in your yard. get wide shot photos. to show that hey, that mail box is my mail box in the picture, and not someone elses property. get a portion of neighbors house in picture or like. something that the judge will not be able to say hay, you took pictures of dogs in there own yard. vs your yard.

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normally there are a good amount more laws for dogs and cats, than any other animal out there.

most state and county laws can be found online, including websites geared just for animals. to make it easier to find the various laws just for animals.

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it is a no go for shooting a dog, there are some rare circumstances you can shoot the dog. but pooping in your yard is not one of them. the rare times you could shoot a dog, is if attacking livestock, and owner not around, or aggressively ready to attack you. while on your property. but even those laws are fairly gray as others have said, and you are better off forgeting idea of shooting all together, or even mention or showing a gun, and get the "animal shelter / animal officer" involved. and follow through with getting filling out a ticket and showing up in court. ya it is a large hassle and time wasted. but. sometimes only way to push the issue to get it fixed / remedy the issue.

again mentioning or showing a gun = you getting in more trouble than folks with the animals. keep your cool as well. i know it is frustrating. *been there done that* and keeping cool can be harder than anything. but it is part of playing the game.

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i have dogs all my life, and do my best to keep dogs in a fence, or on a leash, exception when i take them back in the middle of the farm. were they can run, without fear of no other neighbors / folks around. and when in town, carry the doo doo baggies when on a walk and they are leashed up.

 

[joshuabardwell]

I would contact the county animal control or what ever jurisdiction your under, they may have an ordinance for that. I would also check with your local Law enforcement about the "finger", that often is classed as "vulgar" if someone is "offended", and you are VERY offended by it

I think that would really be overkill, and a waste of the police's time. Have we really come to calling the cops because someone gave us the finger?

 

[creekbend]

This might be of some interest. Pooper Scooper Laws | eHow.com

 

[Rford]

It's just poor manners for sure, and not very neighborly. If you can print out this thread, maybe you should and drop it off to the guy's house.

Kids and dogs...you love yours, but not so much anybody elses, at least for the most part.

I knew of a guy that lived in a downtown apartment that would make his dog go on the downstairs business front stoop every early morning. The business owner finally staked out the place and got him...no real explanation why he was doing it...he was an adult, owned a restaurant, and was just being a jerk.

I've got 120 acres I hunt on, I keep getting some black lab on my trail cameras. I've dropped off flyers with pictures and asked the neighbors to help out if they know who owns the dog...I'm about to conclude its a rabid stray.

I love dogs. I have dogs. I just don't want somebody else's dog bothering me. Just like kids.

 

[chkntrktr]

That was a big mistake. You should have gone to the father face-to-face in private. When you "attacked" his little girl you escalated/switched the dispute from dog to daughter. That's why the whole family is mad at you.

OP said adult daughter. However, it sounds like the whole family is little people inside.
We live in the country but still have dog problems. Everybody that buys a lot or a couple acres out here gets a big dog of some kind and lets them run loose. They chase our chickens, **** in the yard, bark at me in my yard, and once two of them ran at me. Our dogs stay in a fence unless my wife or I am out with them, I just think that is being responsible for them and to them.
I like the idea of the electric fence. I did that to one that kept coming in my yard and barking at me and he doesn't come close anymore.

 

[TCJatko]

OP said adult daughter. However, it sounds like the whole family is little people inside.
We live in the country but still have dog problems. Everybody that buys a lot or a couple acres out here gets a big dog of some kind and lets them run loose. They chase our chickens, **** in the yard, bark at me in my yard, and once two of them ran at me. Our dogs stay in a fence unless my wife or I am out with them, I just think that is being responsible for them and to them.
I like the idea of the electric fence. I did that to one that kept coming in my yard and barking at me and he doesn't come close anymore.

Here in New hampshire having a dog that runs at a person is grounds for police involvement. As to those who purposely let their dogs defecate on others' lawns, that's just bad manners. I lke the suggestion of returning the droppings to their rightful owners. My dogs stay inside our fences at all times.

 

[studor]

We live on a golf course and many of our neighbours believe that you don't need to pick up after your dog if they are on the course or if the snows too high in the winter !!!!!
I don't own a jacket that does not have plastic bags in the pocket
Just plain rude and ignorant not to pick up after your dog -- I often notice that in seems that people who own those little designer dogs seem to think their S##t does not smell or something
I would be a fan of talking to the father and telling him that if the dog goes on your lawn then it has to be picked up -- if he refusse that simple coutesy then just put up with it and eventually he will be branded as the person of low breeding that he must be.

 

[chkntrktr]

While I don't advocate shooting the dog for messing in your yard, it does remind me of what my FIL did years ago. His sister and family lived next to him and had a pack of mutts they didn't take care of. One of them took to chasing his cows. He warned them and said if they didn't keep it tied up he would shoot it. They allowed as how their dogs didn't chase cows. He just said OK. Couple of days later he saw the dog in his pasture chasing cows, grabbed his rifle and went and put a bullet in it. It didn't kill it and when they got home they saw it had been shot so they came and asked him why he shot their dog. He just said "your dogs don't chase cows, the dog I shot was chasing cows." The dog got better and was kept on a chain after that.

I guess this doesn't have much to do with the current subject, but is another case of irresponsible dog owners with maybe an extreme response.

 

[Western]

I think that would really be overkill, and a waste of the police's time. Have we really come to calling the cops because someone gave us the finger?

When I was a police officer, if someone was offended I had no problem responding to it, did my job. That was better than two people rolling around in the grass over it. Some people are still offended by something like that. It isn't something we've "really came to" more like where we came from.

 

[RobertBrown]

I suggest you go and visit the "The guy on the corner" at his house. Go up on his front porch, knock on his door, and ask him why he is extending his middle finger at you.
If he doesn't have a civil answer, or one that you can live with, or if he is not home, I suggest you c&ap on his porch.
See how that works for you.
Be sure and let us know
hope this helps :thumbsup:

 

[rekees4300]

I suggest you c&ap on his porch.

:laughing: The dispute could escalate from middle finger to fist!

 

[RSKY]

The dispute will not escalate to fists. He may swing at me but I have enough sense to not swing back. If he did I would let him get in a blow then charge him. If (when) I talk with him there will be witnesses standing close enough to see and hear what is said. I worked as a supervisor in a large factory for my entire adult life and I can tell someone that they are a scum sucking low life without using those words but in a polite and friendly way that leaves them no doubt how I feel.

Question #3 in the original post was a joke. No way would I use a weapon that close to somebody or in the neighborhood with all the houses around. I would do as one person has told of his father doing. They were at some kind of music festival when some 'dog people' came up in the packed crowd with a little mutt on a leash. Let me get off the story for a little bit. If you own dogs do yourself and the public a favor, DO NOT take them to events were you know there will be large numbers of people. There is nothing ruder or more inconsiderate to the general public. Anyway back to the story. The guy had a young boy about five and he had something to eat in his hand. He bent over to pet the dog and it snapped the food and got the kids finger, drawing a drop or two of blood. Of course an argument erupted with the 'dog people' saying it was the kids fault for holding the food close to a dog that should have never been there in the first place. The grandfather walked up and found out what was going on and as the 'dog people' said that the dog would never bite again. He saw the blood on the grandson's finger, picked up the mutt around the neck, turned it over and made as if to throw it on the ground snapping the dogs neck. He then handed it back to the owners telling them he was sure it wouldn't bite anybody else. I don't know if it is true or not but told to me as being fact.

If you own dogs YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

I have, thru the rude behavior of the most of them, come to despise people who take their leashed dogs in public. The very act of taking them into large groups of people is rude, uncaring, and should be prohibited.

 

[Domush]

If you own dogs YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

I have, thru the rude behavior of the most of them, come to despise people who take their leashed dogs in public. The very act of taking them into large groups of people is rude, uncaring, and should be prohibited.

The same argument could be made of anything anyone doesn't like. I think the same of most children and all fat people. Just my having to rub up against those sweaty fat people who can't fit anywhere two normal people can is disgusting and should be prohibited. Moral of the story is: life includes annoying things.

 

[RSKY]

Life may be full of annoying things BUT, I have never had anyone bring their kid down the street on a leash for them to crap in my yard and I have never had any fat people crap in my yard.

You seem to be telling me to 'get over it'.

Why doesn't this family let their dogs go in their own yard? Because they have grandkids that play in the yard all the time. So they bring it down and put it in my yard so I have to clean it off my granddaughters feet and legs.

I hope all little dogs being paraded around on leashes DIE !!!!!!!!

 

[yelbike]

Life may be full of annoying things BUT, I have never had anyone bring their kid down the street on a leash for them to crap in my yard and I have never had any fat people crap in my yard.

You seem to be telling me to 'get over it'.

Why doesn't this family let their dogs go in their own yard? Because they have grandkids that play in the yard all the time. So they bring it down and put it in my yard so I have to clean it off my granddaughters feet and legs.

I hope all little dogs being paraded around on leashes DIE !!!!!!!!

I have a dog, I guess that makes me a "dog person". I see your point, I think most people do..........just don't let this crappy (pardon the pun:laughing experience let you cloud your perception on every other dog and their owners.

Talk to him. Communication is the only way to resolve it. Start with yourself, if that doesn't work then let the law deal with it. You in the right and you shouldn't have to put up with all the poop( oops I did it again).

 

[teg]

I'll go back and read the whole thread but I had to post this first... We live on a greenway and people crap in my yard... setup game camera where she can see it... and it stopped. I would have liked to shoot them too. I know what you mean.

I would have picked up the poo and placed it on their doorstep, with a note saying that they forgot to pick up after their dog.