Dodge and Cummins No More????

   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #91  
I feel the same way. I get high 23's in my 4x4 F-350 with the 6.0 PS on the highway. Its got a different intake, 4" exhaust, and a chip. It will do 17 around town and has done so for the last 40,000 miles.

Diesel cars and the rare Diesel Rangers of the 80's were getting in the mid 40's. The new Jetta gets in the 50 range. I would think a 1/2 ton should do a min of 30 un-modified. Heck, my neighbors bone stock 2007 3500 3x3 Dmax can squeeze out 21 at 65mph on the highway. We took it on a 500 mile round trip to Detroit pulling a Lincoln Aviator on my car haul trailer 1/2 of that, the other half with a empty trailer, and we averaged 16 mpg on that round trip.

Chris

I'm in California and my Smog Shop said he is getting ready for mandatory Diesel Emission Testing... Any idea how this will affect aftermarket equipment installed... like modified exhaust, intake and the like?

I have not been paying much attention to Diesel Issues since I don't own one.
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #92  
I'm in California and my Smog Shop said he is getting ready for mandatory Diesel Emission Testing... Any idea how this will affect aftermarket equipment installed... like modified exhaust, intake and the like?

I have not been paying much attention to Diesel Issues since I don't own one.

If it doesn't pass, I would think the equipment causing it not to pass must be removed or modified until it does. I feel bad for all the guys chopping DPFs off their new $50,000 trucks or removing the CATs off their older trucks, then not being able to meet new emissions standards.

Not sure about over-the road trucks, but I know a lot of guys are dumping older diesel off road equipment b/c it won't meet emmissions. I picked up a great buy on a NH backhoe from a seller who said it would no longer meet CA emmissions. :confused: Don't know if it's true or not.

In my state, there's no diesel emmissions tests....for now. :rolleyes:
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More????
  • Thread Starter
#93  
Here in Indiana we have no emission testing, gas or diesel so I have no idea how the aftermarket stuff effects things. I am not one of the diesel guys who likes to roll black smoke so I have my chips customed tuned to keep a handle on it.

Anyway, we are way off topic here.

Chris
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #94  
I am not one of the diesel guys who likes to roll black smoke

Anyway, we are way off topic here.

Chris[/QUOTE]

I cannot make that claim.
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #95  
Fiat CEO is now in charge. I heard they replaced the case 580 cummins with their brand. If this is true they will also offer their engine which will be lower priced and sell better. The cummins is no doubt expensive and the die hards will still demand them. A half ton with a smaller diesel would be very attractive in the market.
Another possibility will be a 1 1/2 ton ( any manufacturer ) with your choice of engines on a HD pickup style design ( made in Texas of course ).
I don't have the 50k to buy one so what ever they do is fine with me.
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #96  
just wait until all of this electric hybrid b.s. in a full size truck falls flat on its face. then we'll hopefully see 1/2 ton diesels out the ying yang. i'm sorry, but 5,500lbs of towing just ain't gonna cut it in my world. my tractor alone weighs over 6,000 without a fel. i don't need a grocery getter, what i need is a truck that will so the work i need to do while getting the best fuel economy possible without sacraficing towing numbers.
if it works for a locomotive, or a offroad dumptruck it should be able to be made to work for your truck.

Aaron Z
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #97  
if it works for a locomotive, or a offroad dumptruck it should be able to be made to work for your truck.

Aaron Z

both are diesel's, i was referring to gas engines. sorry i didnt specify that. i just don't want the drivetrain of a Prius in a truck i use for work on my farm.
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #98  
Yea, that would make a good combo. Nice axles with electric lockers front and rear with big disc brakes would also be good.

Chris

Just think, a Jacobs engine brake, the transmission retarder in the Allison, maybe slip in an exhaust brake...

Go fast, and stop faster.....
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #99  
Just a guess, but it will probably be like when they started doing smog tests on gas engines. Smog pumps and other equipment had been required since 1966.

When they started inspections, all the smog stuff had to go back on. If you did not have it, then you could often buy it. My Dad sold a '70 Jeep CJ5. It had a smog pump and some other stuff. It did not get inspected, but when I bought it back from the same guy and registered it, I had to smog it. I had everything, except the tubes from the smog pump to the exhaust manifold.

There were a couple companies making stuff like that; kind of made a cottage industry right away.

I did an exhaust last week on my Dodge. The old exhaust will be in the rafters of the shed, just in case...

There is some thought that they will get motorcycles too. And, it will wreak havoc in the Harly aftermarket. First thing folks do(me included) is cam/carb/aircleaner/exhaust. Who keeps that stuff... :eek:

I'm in California and my Smog Shop said he is getting ready for mandatory Diesel Emission Testing... Any idea how this will affect aftermarket equipment installed... like modified exhaust, intake and the like?

I have not been paying much attention to Diesel Issues since I don't own one.
 
   / Dodge and Cummins No More???? #100  
Fiat CEO is now in charge. I heard they replaced the case 580 cummins with their brand. If this is true they will also offer their engine which will be lower priced and sell better. The cummins is no doubt expensive and the die hards will still demand them. A half ton with a smaller diesel would be very attractive in the market.
Another possibility will be a 1 1/2 ton ( any manufacturer ) with your choice of engines on a HD pickup style design ( made in Texas of course ).
I don't have the 50k to buy one so what ever they do is fine with me.

Yep, my '05 Case 580 had an Iveco in it. Cummins has been out of the 580/590 for 5+ years.
 

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