Do we need a Jinma forum?

Muhammad · Jul 27, 2004

Yes, no, maybe so? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

SPIKER · Jul 27, 2004

Hi Muhammad:

well with the China Forum I think it is probably pretty covered but maybe it would be OK, but those of us who OWN a Jinma also know a little bit about OTHER brands of china tractors as we researched many brands prior to getting the Jinmas. also many New Comers maybe want to look at some XYZ branded tractor (Jinma or Futon or Shinsue ect) where they THINK it is china but don't know... usually this china forum is very helpfull to one and all ...

I know I didn't really answer you're question but I do know that the NYCTOA board is set up with different brands but not sure how much use the other china brands get as i go there and just read the new posts under the most recent heading...

perhaps JohnS will respond and can provide a better thought. I think I'm too beat tonight to think straight! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bird · Jul 27, 2004

Instead of adding forums, I'd be more inclined to think about reducing the number of forums; i.e., combine the buying/pricing and owning/operating to have just one instead of two for Kubota and the same for Deere and New Holland.

But of course I don't have a problem with whatever you decide.

Inspector507 · Jul 27, 2004

Since "most" Chinese tractors share so many similarities, maybe not...........just my opinion /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

JohnS · Jul 28, 2004

FWIW, I feel the China Tractor forum is sufficient. It is also much better than being included in "Other Tractor brands". I vote keep it the way it is.

Muhammad · Jul 28, 2004

That's why I asked. I keep seeing a lot of Jinma messages, but it's fine being just one forum, in my book. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

schmalts · Jul 28, 2004

I would do it, It is a very popular brand and shouldnt be lumped in with all the other chinese tractors.
I think this site will see more traffic now that CTOA is charging for a membership a lot of guys jumped ship (like me)
Maybe a sub catagory?

Inspector507 · Jul 28, 2004

Muhammad,
Jinma may be gaining popularity here at TBN and other boards. Is there a way to track Jinma posts VS non-Jinma posts in this forum for say......6 months?
If that particular brand gets more than 50-60% of the traffic, then it may be time to add one.

greg_g · Jul 28, 2004

A lot of folks have a Jinma, and don't even know it. Rebadging is so commonplace, that in some cases the Jinma identity gets lost in the marketing. AgraCat was a good example.

But one thing's for sure; whether or not owners realize they've actually got a Jinma, they almost certainly know that it's Chinese.

//greg//

AndyM · Jul 28, 2004

Many people who are looking at Jinmas (or their other branded variations) are looking at Chinese tractors in general. Many newbies don't know that such brands as Farm Pro and Nortrac are made by Jinma, and these posts could still end up in the "Chinese tractors" forum instead of the separate "Jinma" forum.

My vote is to leave it the way it is. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Inspector507 · Jul 28, 2004

Good point Andy, service and parts are all the same no matter what "name" is on it.

HAMMERJAMMER · Jul 29, 2004

I think it is good the way it is too. I don't have a jinma dealer close to me but I do Have farm pro and nortrac. I've been thinking of getting one and really had no idea they were all basically the same until I started looking here.
This way If you need to search for info on chinese tractors its alot easier to search for in one forum. It doesn't take long to figure out that they are all basically the same tractor. You can simply apply what you learn about one to the other for the most part. It would be a little tougher searching for info through 2 forums.(not that much though) But a newbie, like I was, may not put 2 and 2 together for a while and miss out on some info on one or the other of the forums.

AndyM · Jul 29, 2004

My first TBN post ever was looking for information on Farm Pro tractors I saw at a Homier tool sale.

I only knew they were Chinese, but I knew nothing at the time about Jinma, or the other brand names they are sold under. I posted a list full of questions under the Chinese forum, and was quickly helped by many of the experts at TBN! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

RICHARDG · Aug 13, 2004

The new york chinese tractor owners web page is free and works better than c.t.o.a. anyways,,,,and no, you don't have to be from that state. Always good to have someplace else to argue with my main man greg though,,,thingy

JayC · Aug 28, 2004

I know of at least another Jinma variation. McConnel-Marc has a Jinma version. Their machines are yellow. I know that they have at least one Jinma variant, but I'm not sure of the others.

This is their 425XL.

ToolManRick · Oct 1, 2004

Everyone has had good input on your question. I'd like to suggest a renaming of from Chinese Tractors to Jinma and other Chinese Tractors. Kind of a trade-off, but giving Jinma some recognition. They appear to have a pretty good market here in the states regardless of brandnaming. Personally I have a Nortrac, but was never once fooled about it being anything but a Jinma. I'm also comfortable with the way it is now.

AndyTractor · Oct 1, 2004

Your photo of 425XL, the yellow tractor looks more like a DongFeng (DF) tractor, NOT a Jinma tractor.

bluechip · Oct 1, 2004

I dunno Andy, it looks pretty Jinma to me, old style maybe if it is a 25hp but they may be selling the 224 as a the 425XL, never can tell, seen it done on other brands.

greg_g · Oct 2, 2004

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I dunno Andy, it looks pretty Jinma to me, old style maybe if it is a 25hp but they may be selling the 224 as a the 425XL, never can tell, seen it done on other brands. )</font>
I definitely see Jinma there too. Looks like a prototype for the Tonka version

//greg//

F100Panel · Oct 2, 2004

That tractor in JayC's post looks pretty Jinma to me too.

One thing I see in the photo I REALLY like ( I don't know if it's picture distortion or actual size /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif ) but I'd LOVE to have those front tires.. The regular Jinma Turf Tires really don't have the load capacity for front loaders. I run mine overinflated @ 30psi & with the backhoe on the back for counterweight they are better but if I'm grooming the driveway with just a rake on the back, with a full bucket of gravel running along low/skimming the ground the tires are unstable/will roll to the side in a turn or slight sidehill making the tractor tippy with a full bucket. Wider front tires would make a HUGE difference......to the better /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif