DK45 lifting capacity with forks

[musselmark]

The specs state 2700lbs at pin, in my case I will have a forklift rotator the forks and a 42" X 42" plastic tank of shellfish. I took the rotator,forks and tankfull of shellfish to the scales and those three things together weighed 2200lbs. The rotator is very heavy, must be close to 500lbs but it is very close to the pin as are part of the forks. Will a DK-45 handle this load. I have a snowblower that I could use for ballast. The rotator puts the forks out an extra 3"- 4".

 

[SSdoxie]

Does the snowblower weigh over 1100 lbs? Deo you have loaded tires? If answer either of these is no, then it probably won't do it. If yes to both, then there is a slight possiblity it might. Here are some lfit specs from the Bobcat CT445 (same tractor, different loader). Lift at pivot pin - 2655#, capacity with 42 pallet forks weighing 364# - 1350 # (I presumed since they listed the weight of the forks the 1350 is net load) so 1350 + 364 = 2014#. And this is only with liguid filled tires and minimum 1100# on 3pt.

 

[musselmark]

No idea what the blower weighs, it is an 84" lucknow blower, and I could load the tires if needed. I did not buy the new tractor yet and am considering it. I know this is apples to oranges but currently I have a old zetor 7211 (59hp) 2wd tractor which has an old case loader, the loader only has 2" bore cylinders and it will barely lift this load. The Kioti 401 loader has 2.36" cylinders, assuming this is measured by the bore and not OD then it should have more lifting capacity.

 

[SSdoxie]

The bore equals surface area hydraulic oil has avaialble to push on, max pressure on that area equals total force, then geomotry of the loader (where the lift cylinders connect to loader in relationship distoance to rear pivot point to front end load determine the leverage the loader has with available lift force. All depends on the hyd. pressure on loader geometry of the older loader, could actually have more lift force. Not very likely but who knows??

 

[IndyIan]

No idea what the blower weighs, it is an 84" lucknow blower, and I could load the tires if needed. I did not buy the new tractor yet and am considering it. I know this is apples to oranges but currently I have a old zetor 7211 (59hp) 2wd tractor which has an old case loader, the loader only has 2" bore cylinders and it will barely lift this load. The Kioti 401 loader has 2.36" cylinders, assuming this is measured by the bore and not OD then it should have more lifting capacity.

The 2700lb rating is at full height. The loader will lift more the closer it is to the ground, and the curl will lift more again. But if you need to lift that setup to full height maybe load it all on a trailer and go to the dealer and try it out?
I think your blower will be enough ballast to lift the load but having 1100lbs+ back there will make the tractor alot more stable.

 

[MotorSeven]

Your going to be pushing the limits, so I agree, take it to the dealer and try it out....that's the only way to know for sure. I have never heard of rotator forks....looked them up, interesting. Do you use the rotator in this application? If not, think about getting a regular set of forks, much lighter and then you know you can lift it.

 

[coobie]

No idea what the blower weighs, it is an 84" lucknow blower, and I could load the tires if needed. I did not buy the new tractor yet and am considering it. I know this is apples to oranges but currently I have a old zetor 7211 (59hp) 2wd tractor which has an old case loader, the loader only has 2" bore cylinders and it will barely lift this load. The Kioti 401 loader has 2.36" cylinders, assuming this is measured by the bore and not OD then it should have more lifting capacity.

I have a KL401 loader IMHO max load with forks is 2,000 lbs

 

[musselmark]

Yeah I think I am going to have to actually try it out to know for sure. I need the rotator to dump the tanks of mussels. Coobie, is your 2000lb max. including the weight of the forks and their quick attach assembly? If not what do you think they weigh.

 

[MotorSeven]

Q/A forks should weigh between 350 & 400 lbs

 

[kiotiken]

You'll be close, but I think you'll be able to lift it off the ground, I don't think you'll lift it very high though. The KL401 loader is much stronger curling than it is lifting, which doesn't help you much since you'll want to keep it fairly level. With a 400# box blade on the back and loaded tires, my loader will lift a load of paving stones out of the back of a truck that is heavy enough to take all the weight off the back tires and force me to use 4X4 to move. I couldn't lift the load until I started to curl slightly and then, I only lifted it up high enough to clear the truck bed. My guess was about 2000# (plus the weight of the forks), but it is purely a guess. Another guess is that my forks weigh 400#.

 

[coobie]

Yeah I think I am going to have to actually try it out to know for sure. I need the rotator to dump the tanks of mussels. Coobie, is your 2000lb max. including the weight of the forks and their quick attach assembly? If not what do you think they weigh.

I think my forks are about 400 lbs.so about 2,400 max lift.coobie

 

[finspop]

I think you'll be able to lift it off the ground, but not very far and you probably wouldn't want to travel with it. I have a DK40 (same loader specs), and I used it to unload one-ton pallet of grain. The bill of lading gave a total weight of 2090 lbs, including pallet and packaging materials; I was just barely able to unload the pallet from the back of a freight truck and transport it a 1/4 mile over hilly terrain. In fact, it was sketchy as all get out. I did have a logging winch on the back for counter weight, plus my tires are loaded.

However, not all pallets are loaded the same, and the load on this one sat particularly far out from the pins. Still, even if it had been in a bit further, I'm pretty sure it would still have been right at the limit.

 

[musselmark]

I found a fellow with a DK-45S and tried it, it will lift it but the back tires came off the ground and they are loaded. How much bigger are the DK-55 and RX60. As I understand it the 55 is older technology, is there any reason to avoid it, or should the 60 be avoided because of it being a brand new model?

 

[k0ua]

I found a fellow with a DK-45S and tried it, it will lift it but the back tires came off the ground and they are loaded. How much bigger are the DK-55 and RX60. As I understand it the 55 is older technology, is there any reason to avoid it, or should the 60 be avoided because of it being a brand new model?

Why would you (or the owner) even attempt a lift without proper ballast on the 3pt.? Loaded tires are great, but you must have proper ballast on the 3pt or you risk damage to the front axle. When you lift the the rear tires off of the ground you by definition do not have proper ballast on the 3pt. If you have proper ballast on the 3pt the rear tires will never come of of the ground, the hydraulic relief valve will go into relief if the attempted load is too great on the loader.

James K0UA

 

[coobie]

I found a fellow with a DK-45S and tried it, it will lift it but the back tires came off the ground and they are loaded. How much bigger are the DK-55 and RX60. As I understand it the 55 is older technology, is there any reason to avoid it, or should the 60 be avoided because of it being a brand new model?

WOW,be carefull.I have loaded rear tires and use a 1,000 lbs rear ballast weight with that kind of load.coobie

 

[kiotiken]

Ya, loaded tires don't cut it. I've got them and use the box blade for more. Since I bought the box blade for my last tractor, it's undersized and insufficient for really heavy lifting so in rare cases, I'll add my homemade Zamboni on top of the box blade and fill both 60 gallon tanks. The DK55 or RX6010 are going to have the exact same issue, you'll need to ballast them properly as well. I don't think either have a huge increase in lifting capacity anyway.