Difference Between CK, DK, and NX line ?

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Can anyone give me the skinny on what the difference is between the different lines? I tried wading thru the literature and wind up getting confused. I'd appreciate the help. My interest is in 35 to 45 hp with a hydro cab with at least 2 valves. It seems DK and NX both cover that, so what's the difference ?
Thanks,
John

 

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Can anyone give me the skinny on what the difference is between the different lines? I tried wading thru the literature and wind up getting confused. I'd appreciate the help. My interest is in 35 to 45 hp with a hydro cab with at least 2 valves. It seems DK and NX both cover that, so what's the difference ?
Thanks,
John

John, that's a pretty broad question. How much time do you have? To complicate things more, the CK10 and CK10 SE series also have 35 and 40 hp models HST and cabs.

When you say you've looked at the literature, have you used the "Compare Models" feature on the Kioti website? Compare KIOTI Tractors | Kioti Tractors

It lets you select and compare three tractors at once, across their entire North American tractor line.

 

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Three, Thanks so much. I was not aware of the comparison feature. I'll check it out. I've been a fan of LS, and only recently learned that Kioti offers a bigger cab, to accomodate someone at 6'4".
Thanks !!

 

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Three, I checked out the link and reviewed the dimensional differences. I guess what I was looking to understand was the feature differences. What's the difference in the NX vs. DK. other than the marginal differences in gpm, length, clearance, etc. So, I'm still struggling as the lift capacity, and hp, pto, are almost the same. Maybe I have to go to a dealer to understand better.
Thanks for the help.

 

[Haneyrm]

The DK is a more basic series of tractors with only a few fancy options. It's a great mid sized option and is available this year with hydrostatic tranny. I have one and the size is perfect for my 10 acres.

The NX is slightly larger and includes all of the fancy options that you could every want.

 

[Threepoint]

Three, I checked out the link and reviewed the dimensional differences. I guess what I was looking to understand was the feature differences. What's the difference in the NX vs. DK. other than the marginal differences in gpm, length, clearance, etc. So, I'm still struggling as the lift capacity, and hp, pto, are almost the same. Maybe I have to go to a dealer to understand better.
Thanks for the help.

Bigcut -As you note, the "Compare Models" tool is focused on comparing specs. But to compare features, the website does have quite a bit of information once you spend some time navigating it. With all the different series and models, it can get pretty confusing. :confused2: Say you want to compare the features of an NX4510HST Cab to the new DK4710SE HC. Both are hydro cab models with nearly identical hp ratings. Start at the main Kioti Tractor Products page:

KIOTI Compact Tractors | Kioti Tractors

Then use the drop-down menu next to the "NX Series", and select the NX4510HST Cab. That will bring up the following page, and you can see the features, as well as click on tabs for "equipment and panel", tires, attachments and implement options:
NX451CH Utility Tractor | Kioti Tractors

Next, go back to the Tractor Products page and use the drop-down menu next to the DK10SE Series to select the DK4710SE HC to bring up this page:
DK471SE HC | Kioti Tractors

There you can at least read about the features. They don't yet have corresponding artwork up for that and some of the other DK10SE models. I'm guessing it's because they've just been rolled out and the Kioti web administrators haven't caught up. Also, click on the "Equipment and Panel" tab to see what's available as an option.

Five or so years ago, the NX series was reportedly the "successor" to the DK series, in a slightly larger frame size with HST and some "deluxe" features. Don't know Kioti's marketing strategy, of course, but I suspect that the success of the NX series, coupled with the popularity of the existing DK and CK series led them to add "deluxe" features to the DK and CK and offer them as the new DK10SE and CK10SE series.

For sure, nothing beats actually kicking the tires. If the dealer has a DK10 series HST Cab model and an NX series HST Cab side by side, you can get a good sense of the differences in frame size, cab roominess and layout between the two series, although there's not a whole lot. Can't very well do that online or from brochures.

Also, you haven't said what you're planning to do with your tractor, or the terrain and acreage you need it for. Unless you particularly want a larger frame and the additional hp, also take a look at the CK4010SE HC, which is new in 2018.

Be sure to drive the models around the dealer's yard so that you can compare maneuverability. That may turn out to be very important to you, depending on your application. As you go up in frame size there is a trade off. The NX series has a great deal to offer, but compared, say, to the CK, it is not nimble.

 

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Thank you kindly Three. I live in somewhat of a hilly area similar to you.

When I clicked on equipment tab as you suggested, it appeared that the DK SE had more optional features and possibly greater std. features than the NX. A little puzzling.

My thought is possibly buying the unit for my son-in-law (I have no sons) who is 6-4. which is why I ruled out LS (cab too small). The land is a few acres, with need for grading (BB) dirt work, ditches, brush hogging,etc.
I'm a wannabe farmer who spent a career in white collar. I've reached the age where I have to live out my dreams thru other people.

Thanks so much for your help.
John

 

[Tigershark]

NX has lots of nice features standard, Linked pedal, No stall, cruise all adjustable control arms and links the DK doesn't have any of that standard not even adjustable 3 Pt arms. I liked the USB Charging station in the cab of the DK but the NX just felt better and had a ton of additional options. I didn't see linked pedal as an option on the new DK when I sat in one last week. The Lift capacity was significantly more on the NX as well. The AC was great in the DK. wish the new NXs had the new charging station and the little cool tool box that the DKs come with, If Kioti would add some features to the DK to compete with the RKs and Bransons I think they would do really well at their price points. Too many optional equipment that should be standard in my opinion. A 30K tractor should come with fixed 3PT arms, I don't think any tractor should LOL

 

[JimR]

I bought my NX4510HST almost 2 years ago. I bought it because of the options, loader capacity and 3 PTH capacity. It did not come with a cab. I have not regretted the purchase.

 

[Z-Michigan]

The DK is a more basic series of tractors with only a few fancy options. It's a great mid sized option and is available this year with hydrostatic tranny. I have one and the size is perfect for my 10 acres.

The NX is slightly larger and includes all of the fancy options that you could every want.

This. The DK is fairly basic but a solid machine, and includes most of the essentials. The NX is fully loaded. Think Cadillac vs. Chevy. The frame size is only a hair different on the NX and the hp ratings overlap pretty heavily. If you want a cab and can afford it, the NX is probably your best option.

The CK is a much smaller frame size than either one.

I have a DK5010 and am fairly happy with it, but if I were buying today I would probably choose the HST transmission, which was not an option when I bought mine.

 

[Illini22]

This. The DK is fairly basic but a solid machine, and includes most of the essentials. The NX is fully loaded. Think Cadillac vs. Chevy. The frame size is only a hair different on the NX and the hp ratings overlap pretty heavily. If you want a cab and can afford it, the NX is probably your best option.

The CK is a much smaller frame size than either one.

I have a DK5010 and am fairly happy with it, but if I were buying today I would probably choose the HST transmission, which was not an option when I bought mine.

The older DK’s (40)were a fully loaded tractor, mine is a 2014. Besides being a tier 3 vs tier 4 engine it is much closer relative to the nx series versus the newer DK’s.

 

[DK35vince]

The older DK’s (40)were a fully loaded tractor, mine is a 2014. Besides being a tier 3 vs tier 4 engine it is much closer relative to the nx series versus the newer DK’s.

That's what makes it confusing IMO.
The older DK's were the fully featured models.
Now it is the NX and the new DK's are the basic models.

 

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That's what makes it confusing IMO.
The older DK's were the fully featured models.
Now it is the NX and the new DK's are the basic models.

Using the DK 4710 SE as an example in comparing it to the NX4510, I wonder which one has the greatest features. I realize they are different frames, but, does one have something that the other doesn't ? What is the net difference ?

Was hoping someone could answer the riddle.
John

 

[RandyinTN]

Using the DK 4710 SE as an example in comparing it to the NX4510, I wonder which one has the greatest features. I realize they are different frames, but, does one have something that the other doesn't ? What is the net difference ?

Was hoping someone could answer the riddle.
John

No riddle. Visit your dealer or download the brochures for both models. Open them both up at the same time and compare specs. Then you can answer your own question.

 

[DK35vince]

Using the DK 4710 SE as an example in comparing it to the NX4510, I wonder which one has the greatest features. I realize they are different frames, but, does one have something that the other doesn't ? What is the net difference ?

Was hoping someone could answer the riddle.
John

Forgot about the DK xx10 se.
The SE models have many of the features added vs the standard DK model.

 

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Forgot about the DK xx10 se.
The SE models have many of the features added vs the standard DK model.

DK, My point of confusion is that some options are offered for the one unit, that don't appear for another. Example: The DK 4710 SE shows options available:fuel tank heater, block heater, telescopic link ends & stabilizers, etc., these aren't even mentioned on the NX4510 HC. The NX offers locked fuel cap, 7 pin, etc.

So does the NX not offer the heaters, stabilizers, etc ? Both units are very similar in weight, hp, etc. I was trying to understand which offered the most features and options and the most desirable features and options. Cost is a whole other matter. Are there things you can't get on the DK that is available on the NX and vice versa ? Ideally you could build a grid with features/options running down the left and models across the top. You could put check marks under each that offered the feature/capability.

I guess what I'm realizing is that Kioti marketing and product mgmt. have some issues. JD would never have this kind of confusion. Answers to my questions should be readily available in their brochures and marketing materials. The purpose of marketing is to increase buyer info/education and reduce confusion.

At one time, I worked in marketing as well as product mgmt. but in a different industry.
John

 

[RandyinTN]

1. Visit Kioti's web site
2.Pull up the model you are interested in
3. Underneath the photo of the tractor you will see a box with the following headings:
Features, Specs, Equipment and Panel, Tires, Attachments, Implements
4. Click on Equipment and Panel and it will tell you what is standard, optional, and what the instrument panel will tell you. Next click on the Features and see more details how the tractor is equipped.

If that fails to tell you want you need to know it will be in the brochure you can download. If that fails a visit to your dealer can help.

 

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1. Visit Kioti's web site
2.Pull up the model you are interested in
3. Underneath the photo of the tractor you will see a box with the following headings:
Features, Specs, Equipment and Panel, Tires, Attachments, Implements
4. Click on Equipment and Panel and it will tell you what is standard, optional, and what the instrument panel will tell you.

If that fails to tell you want you need to know it will be in the brochure you can download. If that fails a visit to your dealer can help.

Randy, I did that....that's where I got my examples of options from. It doesn't provide clarity. So, I'm left to assume the NX doesn't offer the heaters, or the links, etc,. This necessitates contacting a dealer for answers, rather than learning and understanding what is available on each of the models thru literature or their website. That's why I felt their marketing was lacking.

 

[SGreene]

Companies only offer enough "marketing" info to intrigue customers to visit a dealer for more info. My NX came from the factory with telescoping 3 point ends and stabilizers The dealer automatically threw in the fuel and block heater. Some dealerships offer free liquid tire fill but that's not advertised on Kioti's sight. I have no idea how this measures up to other model lines.

 

[CMV]

The little bit of info in Kioti website is difficult to actually understand what is really different - esp when you are comparing things as similar as a DK SE and NX. A trip to the dealer would really help clear things up. And regardless of what the spec sheets lead you to believe, when you're talking about cab models, sitting in the operator station is very necessary. Even sitting in an open station NX and DK you can really tell you are on something different, so enclosing all that in a cab will further highlight things from operator's perspective that no marketing literature can.

In a nutshell, you're going to get just the basics on a CK or DK. If you upgrade to the SE variant of those, you get some nice features like telescoping arms & stabilizers, linked pedal, extra remotes, etc. The NX comes standard with all the bells and whistles. 3rd function, front remote, 2nd rear remote would be add-on's but ALL the SE upgrades (minus a rear remote - I think CK SE gives 2 rear remotes, NX has 1 standard) are already on the NX - there is no "NX SE".

I would think of it this way: If you want all the bells and whistles and gadgetry of a Grand L Kubota, you want the NX. If you want more of basic model workhorse like a Kubota L4701 or MX4800, you want the DK. If you want somewhere in between all that, you want the DK SE.