Diesel Trucks

/ Diesel Trucks #41  
Another question: do all of the diesel trucks have two batteries like my Ford? I'm sure not looking forward to having to replace two big expensive batteries when the time comes.

I went out today and got a fuel filter, an air filter and an oil filter along with 4 gallons of Rotella......$100.00!!!! Everything about these things seem to be a good bit more expensive.

Jeff
 
/ Diesel Trucks #42  
Bob:
Some of the fellows here could spec you out a real nice diesel truck. Add a few little extras and you'd probably leave the corvetts sitting at the lights.

The box on a P/U is not really conducive to hauling long objects so you will also need a trailer.

Egon
 
/ Diesel Trucks #43  
I think you got hosed on the filters Jeff!! I pay $9 for oil filters, $10 for fuel filters, and $17 for the air filters. I buy bulk rotella in the 55 gallon drums and pay about .90 a quart that way. The batteries are the same as any other one. The last ones I got were the energizer ones from Farm and Fleet on my '95 and they were around $50 a piece. Don't get them from the dealer they will really charge you for them.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #44  
Perhaps those in cold climates should consider a synthetic oil whose cold weather performance are considerably better then non synthetic. Other then that, diesels cold weather performance is much better then it was just ten years ago. I'm curious about the new diesel Ford has in their trucks. What's it like. How is it different then the current Powerstroke? I'm curious as I have a 93 Ford non turbo truck. It is pretty anemic. The introduction of the new diesel sounds interesting especially since I thought the Powerstroke was very nice. It certainly makes me think Ford is always trying to improve its trucks. The automatic sounds pretty good too. I think they needed an improvement especially over my E4OD and even their current choice. Rat...
 
/ Diesel Trucks #45  
Since the pickup engines have become electronic, if everything is ok, they will start down to 0 without being plugged in. As much as these engines cost to repair, I would use a synthetic oil or a quality dino oil such as Shell rotella, Chevron Delo, or Kendall Super D and not go for an extended drain period. The Cummins is by far the most trouble free and built like a Class 8 diesel (you should see the crank, block, and rods). The Isuzu should be ok if Isuzu did more engineering on the engine than GM did. The Powerstoke does a good job but I don't know how people afford to fix them. Water pump $240, injector driver control module $600, high pressure injector oil pump $450, injectors $300x8, glow plugs $13x8, injector control pressure switch $200, camshaft sensor $90, rebuilt turbo w/pedestal $800, fuel supply pump $100. These items start to fail after 125,000 miles. These prices are plus labor. If you get diesel fuel in the cooling system-you have to pull the heads to have the injector coppers replaced. Diesels are great for certain people, just know the associated costs of repairing one if you keep it long enough or buy a used one with over 125,000 miles. We have never replaced a powerstroke or T444E in an Navistar. We have done all of the repairs noted in this post. You shouldn't have to justify the purchase to get a diesel. You only live once, if you want one get one.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #46  
You forgot the famous FORD 85,000 mile indicator, exploding clutch and flywheel. Of coures, you can get it repaired for about $1300-.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #47  
Cowboydoc,

Where do you get the filters for that price? I went to Pep Boys which always seemed to be pretty reasonable to me. I payed $6.49 a gallon for the Rotella, $11.99 for a Purolator oil filter, $22.99 for a Purolator air filter and $31.99 for the Purolator fuel filter. At least this fits with my "Buy high, sell low" motto......when you're good at something, stick with it!!!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

On a side topic I have been looking into changing my coolant (for the first time I'm ashamed to say) when I came across an interesting site concerning use of the coolant additive FW15 in Fords every 15k miles. I thought this was common knowledge but after reading some of the comments on the site I guess it is not. Anyway, the comments are towards the bottom of the site under the "Has this happened to you". It kinda disturbs me as I seem to have a very minor coolant loss somewhere.

How do y'all decide when and if your coolant needs changing and what do you do if your water has a high mineral content (ie well water) for filling and flushing?

Lastly, to you Ford guys...on the overflow tank there are two fill lines but I can't find anywhere in the owners manual what they are. Are they a full hot and full cold level or is it a full cold range as in our tractors? I may be inadvertantly overfilling the resivoir if it is the former which may account for my coolant loss.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.shopdiesel.com/index.cfm/action/coolantfaq.htm>http://www.shopdiesel.com/index.cfm/action/coolantfaq.htm</A>

Jeff
 
/ Diesel Trucks #48  
The price difference for the fuel filter seems to be the big difference. Is your example for a Ford? My Ford uses this large filter that screws into this big cup where the intake manifold would be on a normal gas engine....it's not just a cartridge or an in line type filter.

Jeff
 
/ Diesel Trucks #49  
Trev,

I have started both my Chevy and Ford Diesel when the temps
where in the teens and not using the block heater without
any problems.

I filled my tank up last night. I got 19.1 mpg running 75mph
when I could on the highways. I did some stop and go driving
and some rural driving as well. But 19.1 mpg is pretty danged
good for a 8,000 pound GVW.

I paid 1.45 per gallon last night. There is a county that is
near my property where diesel was selling for 1.21/gallon last
week. I'm hoping that I can buy at the 1.21 level in bulk
which would safe quite a bit of money each year....

I don't intentionally cool down the tractor but by the time I
usually stop the heavy work and get to my parking area the
tractor has had plenty of time to cool down...

Later,
Dan
 
/ Diesel Trucks #50  
Jeff,

I get mine straight from the International dealer here. I get a discount for farm as well. The oil I get from my fuel dealer and it is about $210 for a 55 gallon drum. Look at this page if you don't have an international dealer. The fuel filter alone here will save you $20. http://www.dieselpage.com/racrefpe.htm

As far as the coolant goes I put the International long life coolant in there as well. It's the same thing they use when they put these motors in commercial vehicles. It's good for 300k. What I would do is flush your system and put in new coolant with distilled water. It's really not a good idea to run well water in your coolant system.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #51  
$6.49 a gallon for Shell Rotella is a good per gallon price. Shop around, oil filter price is not that bad but air filter should be able to be bought for around $15 and less than $20 for the fuel filter as it is just a cartridge.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #52  
I went to that site and think I discovered why there is such a large difference in price of the fuel filters. The picture of their filter is only the filter element which I guess you can use with the stock cap that unscrews. The Purolator filter comes with a new cap with the filter already attached. The nice thing about the Purolator cap is that they put a 1/2" socket drive on top so you can use a torque wrench to tighten it to the right specs. Not sure this is "worth" the $20 difference but at least I now understand why it was so much more.

I had planned on using the distilled water with the coolant. What I was unsure about was whether it is a good idea to even flush the system with the well water. Even that doesn't sound like a great idea to me.

Jeff
 
/ Diesel Trucks #53  
Delo 15W40 can be purchased at Costco for $5 something per gallon. I usually use Delo but if Valvoline Fleet or Rotella is available and priced right I have no issues using them. My air filter is a K&N washable and works great. I don't change my fuel filter nearly as often as is suggested and when I do, I have cut it open only to find it clean as a whistle. Oil filter from K&N is about $8.00. Fuel filter is about $30. I have an older 7.3 liter IDI Ford truck. I realize the newer trucks may not have a K&N filter made for them but if they do, you may consider them as an alternative to replacement type filters.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #54  
I have a 2000 powerstroke/6-speed. I have used Rotella, but prefer JD 15w40 Torqgard. No oil use, and 1-1.5 mpg better. Also saw 1 mpg from K&N air filter. As for those exploding clutch/flywheels, no hard downshifts= no clutch problems.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #55  
I think you forgot the most important calculation in new vehicle math: RESALE. A diesel truck with 80000 miles that sells for $3000 more than a comparable gas truck means the diesel only cost $2000 to buy. NOW do your math of higher cost fuel per gallon, more expensive oil and filter changes, etc. Then deduct 50% better fuel economy (I figure to save $.05 per mi.). After all that try to pull a gas truck with a 30 ft gooseneck up to a gas pump, there's never enough room. I've done all these, owned a new big block gas, and love my diesel
 
/ Diesel Trucks #56  
Good point. Exploding clutches are typically caused by hard downshifts. The outside RPM of the clutch will frequently exceed what it can handle. Ever notice how saw blades, grinding wheels, etc. have a maximum speed to them. The larger the blade the slower the maximum speed of the device. A clutch has a fairly large diameter. I used to blow them up on my Datsun as a teenager cause I thought it was cool how it sounded when going fast and downshifting to first. I don't use the manual transmission anymore to slow down the vehicle, I'd rather wear out the brakes. Rat...
 
/ Diesel Trucks #57  
You will get $3000 more for a used diesel truck but you also gave over $5000 more for the diesel when the truck was purchased new. The flywheel-clutch does not explode. The Powerstroke has a dual mass flywheel which is supposed to take out some of the torsional vibrations that are inherent to that engine. This flywheel wears out over time (the springs in the flywheel break and the bearing inside the flywheel hub locks up).. There is no repair to the flywheel except to install a new one for $800.. Every time you shut the motor off it wears the flywheel. If you shut your motor off and you hear a clanking sound that is more noticeable-it is the flywheel. My post is not to find fault about pickup diesels. They are great for people who need them. They are not for everyone.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #58  
Bob, I think your right about the diesel not necessily being for everyone. I am probably one of those candidates. I use mine for a pickup and thats it. I rarely tow a trailer and when I do, its light. I enjoy getting a few more miles to the gallon. I always buy used and got this one for next to nothing. My biggest complaint about diesels is the noise. Perhaps thats why when I heard the Duramax was quiet it perked my interest. The Cummins still seems to be the noisiest as good as it is. Some folks like the rumble of a diesel, I'm just not one of them. I had a Dodge/Cummins behind me at the stop light today and still can't believe they can't do something to quelch its noise. And to think when I was younger I wanted my VW's loud, my Datsun pickup sounded really cool without a muffler. Boy I've changed. Oh well, Rat....
 
/ Diesel Trucks #59  
You're in luck. The new Cummins is now out and available in the new Dodge. A friend was at a dealer and said the new Cummins was about 80% quieter than the ones used in a 2002. His words were the 80% quieter. I always enjoy reading your posts and share a lot of the views that you have when reading them.
 
/ Diesel Trucks #60  
That really sounds great ( or should I say that really doesn't sound, great) What I have always like about the Cummins is the shear simplicity and small package with big power. I was just reading where in Europe that diesels are now about 50% of the engines there for autos and trucks. Apparently they tax the crap out of gas but not diesel. Also they still haven't refined the diesel (removed the sulphur) to the extent we do here in the US and CA. in particular. Thats their next step. It is also was why the German manufactuers for the most part gave up on diesels in the US. They had a hard time getting the engines to meet the more stringent US emission standards. Apparently its coming down to diesels versus hybrids. The diesels emit more nitrous oxide but the gas emits more CO2. Global warming or acid rain was what the article eluded too. I'm going to have to check out the new and quieter Cummins. Rat...
 

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