Diabetes

[ArlyA]

Who/where is it said someone with type 1 is born with it?

mneric says.

It was obvious in the context of the thread that I was speaking about type 2 diabetes because we were not discussing Type 1 diabetes. Type 1s are born that way and your remark, "Don't let the uninformed belittle you because of their ignorance" against my person is both unwarranted and unappreciated.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Here's what you said that indicates you are uninformed.

"People with diabetes already face a medical community that treats them as though they have an incurable disease, a disease they brought upon themselves. Your dietitian/master degree MD/whatever was taught that diabetes is an incurable, progressive disease that at best is managed."

Type 1 diabetes, while it can be manifested at any age, is built into the person from birth and may be triggered either by age, viruses or other environmental factors such as pregnancy. People are born with the proclivity for type 1 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes, which is obvious from the context that is what I was talking about, has been generally regarded as a disease people have brought on themselves.

That said, I don't have time today to mince further words over this chickenshUt nonsense of definitions as doing so distracts from my point that type 2 diabetes can be reversed and my challenge to medical professionals to step up.

 

[daugen]

Kind of scratching my head here, sounds like we all agree on the same thing,
For those of us who can actually accomplish something changing our diet, we'd be pretty dumb
if we didn't at least try.
I have a friend who went pure vegan seven years ago and swears it has been the answer to his good health
and not getting heart disease like his brother.

No one in my family has or has had serious diabetes. That gives me hope I can slide along at the edge of diabetes.
I may get a C- in sugar but I'll pass and fall apart from something else.

Brought a couple new boxes of herbal tea bags home and am keeping the fake fruit sugars away.
Of course I mixed the tart cherry juice in the fake juice and hid that strong flavor.
I don't think I'm mixing tart cherry juice in tea. Need to drink it some other way, good for avoiding gout.
But I might try pouring some in the container of tea at least once.

I wish I could pull up my sugar data as easily as one can one's heart.
wouldn't it be nice if another screen also popped up with glucose level.
With tracking, trending and alarming.

when I go into doc's offices, I run a 145/85. Never thought I had white coat syndrome.
Never felt anxious in doc's offices. But if they wait fifteen minutes and take it again, it always has dropped.

With adrenal insufficiency after adrenal cancer, i have to take hydrocortisone every day.

curious about drug interactions and possible downsides of some scrips I'm on.
I was already told by one doctor I would have a hard time losing weight.
I wonder if I have a hard time balancing sugar now also. Good thing I see an endocrinologist who tests me for all kinds of stuff.
But my AIC was 5.9 and that is firmly in the dog house.

once I trigged the AIC alarm, the specialists start to salivate. Ahhh, more Medicare approved billables...
With my insurance, I never pay a dime for anything. I bought the best Medicare supplement way before I got sick, and
now they are stuck with me. But I'd like to turn the alarm off and see less doctors for sure.

 

[daugen]

and furthermore....I want a double size piece of pumpkin pie with a giant scoop of vanilla ice cream on top
and a pill to evaporate the bad stuff. Just a different kind of morning after pill...
If only eating avocados or something would naturally regulate our sugar.
Is there a bread substitute that doesn't raise your sugar level?
Complex vs simple carbs?

can anyone recommend a type of bread to eat to minimize sugar problems?

 

[D2Cat]

The glycemic index gives numbers to how various foods effect BS.

https://foodstruct.com/glycemic-index-chart

 

[ArlyA]

The glycemic index gives numbers to how various foods effect BS.

Glycemic index chart - Complete (600+) list from all sources.

This is a good place to check, but we should recall that everyone is different. Some years ago someone told be "there was as many of types of diabetes, as there are diabetics".. Seems that is the case. What works for you, might not for anyone else.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

and furthermore....I want a double size piece of pumpkin pie with a giant scoop of vanilla ice cream on top
and a pill to evaporate the bad stuff. Just a different kind of morning after pill...
If only eating avocados or something would naturally regulate our sugar.
Is there a bread substitute that doesn't raise your sugar level?
Complex vs simple carbs?

can anyone recommend a type of bread to eat to minimize sugar problems?

Learn about macros:

Carbs
Proteins
Fats

Somewhere in this thread, I discuss this.

Also since I presented the idea on this thread there is at least one really good Facebook Group: Reversing Diabetes. Check it out and check out the Tool Box in that group.

 

[Spike56]

and furthermore....I want a double size piece of pumpkin pie with a giant scoop of vanilla ice cream on top
and a pill to evaporate the bad stuff. Just a different kind of morning after pill...
If only eating avocados or something would naturally regulate our sugar.
Is there a bread substitute that doesn't raise your sugar level?
Complex vs simple carbs?

can anyone recommend a type of bread to eat to minimize sugar problems?

The only bread I can think of / know about are several brands of sugar free breads. The ones I buy are 11 carbs a slice. Of the other store-bought types, I will choose RYE - more fiber / more micronutrients - claimed by some to be better than whole wheat. Is Rye Bread Healthy?
Otherwise, Almond flour and a few other types are LOW carb, but I just cannot eat those.... yuck

 

[Sawyer Rob]

can anyone recommend a type of bread to eat to minimize sugar problems?

Bottom line is, NONE!

But if you eat more fiber, it helps decrease how much sugar gets into your system because it pushes the carbs through your system faster..

SR

 

[ljjhouser]

Moderate everything. Orowheat used to make a High Fiber bread. But they also have others that are close. Use bread that has low carbs and higher fiber. Eat your sandwich on only one slice of bread. Also, look at Orowheat hamburger thins. 5.9 is good. Only you can tell us the affect any type or amount of bread has on your BS. Best Wishes

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Bread is carbs, heavy exercise burns carbs and that will allow you to have a slice of bread with less effect on your body.

SR

 

[MossyDell]

decaf herbal iced tea sounds like a winner and not hard to make from tea bags versus per bottle price.
Just need a nice container for fridge. And if I wanted to sweeten it at all, is Truvia a healthy enough alternative?

I just worry that anything sweet is tricking some sweet sensor in my system that starts some unwanted hormonal increases.

all that cereal I've been eating. The good stuff, Kashi, whole grain, nuts, cheerios, etc.
but now I know it just runs to sugar.
If I wasn't prediabetic, I honestly wouldn't care and would gobble down every roll in sight. Not any more.
But I do love getting my required dose of blueberries on cereal. I eat cereal for roughage, though maybe subconsciously due to the sugar...,
thinking it was good for me.

I'm guessing a rice cereal would be better. Breakfast is a problem. Other than eggs and meat, what else to eat?
Doc told me he'd rather see me eat leftovers from night before than cereal, muffins and heavy carbs.
What sticks to you? Oatmeal?

I can't eat eggs every morning.

Oatmeal. Broccoli. Blueberries. All good for me.
Weren't oats supposed to be good for your heart? Or did they have to retract that too?
Health claims for food are pretty restricted now.

reminds me I have a variety of oatmeals in cupboard. Looks like it's time to try them out.

Daugen, I don't know about Truvia. For sweetening I use Stevia, made from a South American plant that has zero calories but is very sweet. Apparently our bodies don't know what to do with it and dump the calories. I use Stevia sold by Splenda, the artificial sweetener company, for no particular reason except they sell it everywhere. For cooking we increasingly use Monkfruit, another plant derived zero calorie sweetner you can buy in some bulk.

Oatmeal is one of my two go-to breakfasts. I measure out half a cup to a cup of Quaker quick oats and nuke it with water. To add some creaminess, I often mix in a dollop of Chobani Plain Nonfat Greek Yogurt. It is very low cal and kind of looks and tastes like sour cream when eaten plain—good on baked potatoes instead of sour cream.

To sweeten the oatmeal, I can add a couple-three packets of Stevia or two tablespoons of Carey's Sugar Free Maple Flavor Syrup or Maple Grove Farms Low Calorie Sugar Free Maple Flavor Syrup. Both have excellent flavor and ridiculously low calories; I think they use sucralose, whatever that is. I actually don't always sweeten my oatmeal but do always try to remember to shake in lots of cinnamon when it's cooking.

To help fill me up and add crunch, I often chop up and mix in half an apple or three tablespoons of chopped walnuts. I love blueberries like you and usually put a cup of them on top. Or a banana.

My other standard breakfast now is the Chobani yogurt with walnuts mixed in and one to two cups of blueberries on top. If I am really hungry I might eat a banana too or a piece of thin sliced whole grain bread.

I do not know the effect of any of these sweeteners for diabetics!

 

[MossyDell]

You got that right, a A1C at 8.4 is not good and will give you complications which will kill. Someone stated earlier that "all fruits are good" which is not the case. For example, banana's are caloric intense and I can't only consume 1/3 at a time or my BG will go through the roof. Things are like apples are the apposite and do nothing to raise my blood glucagon. When i got a CGM*, it changed my eating habits, reduced my A1C and improved my life very much.. But if you like to eat like I do, then exercise is your freind. That is the more you move around, then the more you can eat care free.

* What is continuous glucose monitoring? Continuous glucose monitoring automatically tracks blood glucose levels, also called blood sugar, throughout the day and night. You can see your glucose level anytime at a glance. You can also review how your glucose changes over a few hours or days to see trends.

ArlyA, you know more about diabetes than me. But for those who are not diabetic, or maybe are pre-diabetic like I was: a medium banana is 105 calories. Compared to much of what people eat, including fatty meat and processed carbs, that is a low cal snack or meal component.

Seven corn chips are about 140 calories and in comparison to a piece of fruit are such bad carbs. Apples about 95 calories. So for 100 calories, with a banana or apple you get low caloric density with lots of fiber, fluid, vitamins, and minerals.

Do you know why bananas have such a bad effect on your blood glucose? Are they high in fructose? I should keep that in mind. But losing 45 pounds has seemed to straighten out my system. My doctor advised calorie counting for me to lose weight and I joined Noom and it has really helped me.

 

[ArlyA]

ArlyA, you know more about diabetes than me. But for those who are not diabetic, or maybe are pre-diabetic like I was: a medium banana is 105 calories. Compared to much of what people eat, including fatty meat and processed carbs, that is a low cal snack or meal component.

Seven corn chips are about 140 calories and in comparison to a piece of fruit are such bad carbs. Apples about 95 calories. So for 100 calories, with a banana or apple you get low caloric density with lots of fiber, fluid, vitamins, and minerals.

Do you know why bananas have such a bad effect on your blood glucose? Are they high in fructose? I should keep that in mind. But losing 45 pounds has seemed to straighten out my system. My doctor advised calorie counting for me to lose weight and I joined Noom and it has really helped me.

I'm unsure how a banana could only have 105 calories,,, or be listed as that? Yes, I checked wiki and they are indeed listed as that. Nonetheless, everyone is different and you need to work with however your body works. This is why I become a proponent of CGM monitors.

 

[MossyDell]

Arly, I told my wife about all this and she speculated that bananas might be so easy to digest, compared with apples, say, that they hit your system all at once.

 

[ArlyA]

Arly, I told my wife about all this and she speculated that bananas might be so easy to digest, compared with apples, say, that they hit your system all at once.

They (banana) are indeed full of Fructose but there glycemic index (speed calories are ingested) is not know to me. If I stick to 1/2 or 1/3 on my cereal, then I don't need to know there index.

 

[txdon]

Does anyone have a Continuous Glucose Monitoring system hooked up to your I-Phone?

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Does anyone have a Continuous Glucose Monitoring system hooked up to your I-Phone?

I did last summer, for our cat. I had to scan it several times a day using an app. Then i would send in charts to the vet. We gave the cat insulin twice a day.

 

[ArlyA]

Does anyone have a Continuous Glucose Monitoring system hooked up to your I-Phone?

This is actually a pretty good description of the device. I won't use my phone because its to big and I don't want to have it in my pocket all the time. Yes it will be broke while out working. The dexcom receiver is pretty small and does go with me in a variety of clothing pockets, since it is small. Haven't broke one yet.

 

[ljjhouser]

I think in order to get a CGM thru Medicare (and other ins also) you must be on insulin and a certain number of times each day. It kinda reminded me of how difficult it can be to get an insulin pump if you need. But I don't have either device, so I am unsure of the requirements to qualify for either.