Demand for a PT Grapple??

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I'll admit, I do not know much about these cool little machines, but we had a customer that demanded one of our 50" Wicked Grapples for his Power Trac PT425.
We obliged and are in the process of building it.

I have a couple questions...

1. Do most/all power tracs share the same triangular shaped quick attach?

2. Any idea how much demand is out there for these?

Opinions welcome!!
Travis

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While the quick attaches are similar, I'm fairly certain the 400 series hitch is much smaller than the larger models. You'd have to get some specific measurements.

Also, there's an angle issue to mounting the quick attach plate to some implements. If the angle is not correct, the implement may not dump or curl far enough. It would be a bummer to have a bucket that you couldn't dump. ;)
 
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Out of curiosity, how much is that grapple going to weigh?
 
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Out of curiosity, how much is that grapple going to weigh?

Thanks for the insight.

It has bolted in, intermediate lower tines that reduce spacing from 10" to 5".
Approx. 255 with the tines removed.
Approx. 274 with the tines in place.
 
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Travis,

I'm the culprit. I ordered one to go on my PT-1430 (T-12) that uses the smaller PT-425 (T-8) quick attachment plate -- so, it is somewhat of an anomaly.

The shape of the Power Trac quick attach plates are all similar, but the sizes are different for different product classes: Products

The T-8 class have an 800lb rated loader, while the T-12 class have a 1200lbs loader.

On my oldie, that originally predates quick attach mechanisms, I'm using the smaller T-8 for two reasons: (1) it bolts right on, and (2) I have several other T-8 attachments such as tiller, stump grinder, mini-hoe that I want to keep to use on it.

I went back and forth for a while on which grapple to get. One of the reasons I went with your 50" compact, rather than your larger 54" with a bigger opening, is that I didn't want to overtax the smaller QA plate. I owned, used and abused a T-8 grapple bucket, and just sold it. I wanted a more capable grapple, yet wasn't enamored with the factory options.

BTW, the PT-425 (T-8 class) is the biggest selling Power Trac model by a pretty fair margin, I understand. But, the 800lb lift is a limitation - as is the price point for your current 50" compact.

The factory T3295 45" T-8 grapple bucket lists for $1300. This is what I sent you pictures of.
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And they offer a lighter weight 29" T3424 Utility Grapple for the T-8 class, though not nearly as robust as yours, rated for 800lbs. It lists for $800.

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For the larger T-12 class their products are a bit bigger/stronger, beginning with the T-3425 29" Utility Grapple (their utility grapples are narrow), rated for 1200lbs, which lists for $1300.

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The T3296 54" Grapple Bucket for the T12 class lists for $1700.

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Having used one of their T-8 grapple buckets for about 10 years, I was pretty aware of their capabilities. But, I have a 60" rock/dirt bucket with teeth for the new-to-me PT-1430, and wanted to have a more specialized grapple. (My grapple bucket has been my most used attachment.) I also stress-cracked that T-8 grapple bucket with my PT-425, digging roots (and had it repaired), so I was aware of its limitations. But, don't underestimate its ability to handle brush. Here's a couple pics of grapple loads that I've moved with the 45" T-8 grapple bucket on my old PT-425.
 

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Very informative, Kent!
I didn't know you were a member, but it's nice running into you here!

So, after yours, we'll be able to make the grapple with the smaller QA plate(T-8) because we can easily fabricate it.
If someone wants it with the larger QA plate(T-12), we'll need the 1st customer to send us one. After that, we should have them all covered, right?
Travis
 
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Yes, that would cover the T-8 and T-12 classes -- in addition to the smaller, homeowner class PT-422 which shares the same QA plate and 800lb lift as the PT-425, though it can't lift as high. So, that would cover 5 models total.

They have several far larger machines, but the smaller and less expensive T-8 and T-12 classes are their biggest sellers, both for homeowners and landscapers.
 
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So we know the 400 series' T8 quick attach is smaller than the next step up T12 size. What about the T18 and T24 class? Are each of them larger and larger as they go up in class?
 
 
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