Comparison Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing
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Before buying a Kubota M7060 I recommend watching this video:
THREE REASONS NOT TO BUY A KUBOTA - YouTube
This tractor seems to be giving Chucky fitts. Shocking for a tractor with the rep for quality that Kubota fans like to push. My 5075E with over 60 hours has no problems, no leaks I can see, no regen as of yet, it's very quiet for a tractor in its class, the visibility off it was second to none of the tractors in its class that I looked at, and I personally thought it felt tighter than a new M7060 I looked at.
Point being is all models of tractor will have issues for some people. Again my 5075E has been excellent for me for the last 5-6 months that I've had it. I've known Tundra and Camry people who's vehicles were lemons. I've known 2 Camry owners who lost V6's before 120K miles. Does that mean Camrys are poor cars? No. Just that they can/will experience problems like any of it competitors, but Toyota fan like to act like Toyota reliability and quality makes its competitors obsolete and that is just not true. Same with Kummoda. Same with JD. I think in general both brands make even good/quality machines. I do recommend looking at and driving all the tractors you are considering.
I will say both these machines are very similar to each other. There are things I preferred about each model, but nothing that was noticeably better about one over the other. It's easy to tell that they are made to compete with one another more than any other model tractor as I've never driven two difference brand of tractors that competed with one another that felt as similar to the other as these two do to one another. They drive pretty similar to one another even though their controls and stuff of this nature are very different. I will say a pre-18 5E isn't quite as ergonomic as the M7060, but the 18 5E's are much improved and that's why I waited on an 18 instead of buying a new 17. I do think a 5075E is a better comparison to a M7060 than a 5065E is seeing as the 5075E and the M7060 are rated at similar PTO HP where the 5065E will be down 8-10 HP. Otherwise the same tractor as the 5075E.
Here's my tractor with a 9' disk mower. It has no problems with it running at about 7 MPH. Even put some cool music in it.
Mowing hay with my 2018 John Deere 5075E - YouTube
THREE REASONS NOT TO BUY A KUBOTA - YouTube
This tractor seems to be giving Chucky fitts. Shocking for a tractor with the rep for quality that Kubota fans like to push. My 5075E with over 60 hours has no problems, no leaks I can see, no regen as of yet, it's very quiet for a tractor in its class, the visibility off it was second to none of the tractors in its class that I looked at, and I personally thought it felt tighter than a new M7060 I looked at.
Point being is all models of tractor will have issues for some people. Again my 5075E has been excellent for me for the last 5-6 months that I've had it. I've known Tundra and Camry people who's vehicles were lemons. I've known 2 Camry owners who lost V6's before 120K miles. Does that mean Camrys are poor cars? No. Just that they can/will experience problems like any of it competitors, but Toyota fan like to act like Toyota reliability and quality makes its competitors obsolete and that is just not true. Same with Kummoda. Same with JD. I think in general both brands make even good/quality machines. I do recommend looking at and driving all the tractors you are considering.
I will say both these machines are very similar to each other. There are things I preferred about each model, but nothing that was noticeably better about one over the other. It's easy to tell that they are made to compete with one another more than any other model tractor as I've never driven two difference brand of tractors that competed with one another that felt as similar to the other as these two do to one another. They drive pretty similar to one another even though their controls and stuff of this nature are very different. I will say a pre-18 5E isn't quite as ergonomic as the M7060, but the 18 5E's are much improved and that's why I waited on an 18 instead of buying a new 17. I do think a 5075E is a better comparison to a M7060 than a 5065E is seeing as the 5075E and the M7060 are rated at similar PTO HP where the 5065E will be down 8-10 HP. Otherwise the same tractor as the 5075E.
Here's my tractor with a 9' disk mower. It has no problems with it running at about 7 MPH. Even put some cool music in it.
Mowing hay with my 2018 John Deere 5075E - YouTube
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GuidoSarducci
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I looked at those manufacturers online and honestly the price seems pretty close to the big guys when going open station.
Now I do see a huge difference when selecting a cab. Branson and LS both offer cab models that are very reasonably priced.
It seems like better deals are to be had with the smaller manufacturers under 60hp. Above that and they all start to blend in evenly with the big boys. That makes sense because utility size tractors require more steel, heavier hydraulics, and better transmissions which a CUT might not have.
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We purchased a TYM T1054 and the typical name brand tractors were 10-15k higher for the same options. Their base models of the same or close hp was 5-7k higher.
I didn’t look at any open station models so I can’t speak to their pricing.
I didn’t look at any open station models so I can’t speak to their pricing.
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All you guys posting this video realize he still recommends the 7060 overall?
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Sea2. (Reference Lightning Camero Posting)
I actually posted this notice of Chuck's video FIRST on 8/27. However, it did not result in the dealer/manufacturer having to buy back his tractor.
The E series deeres are an economy tractor to compete in a global market. The kubota model represents a more premium version in comparison. Deere makes some fine tractors, those that enjoy an M or R after the model #.
If you ( Lightning Camero) wish to invest in an E model, that is wholly your business. If someone asks for input on TBN and subsequently rejects the input, that is also their prerogative. But both neg and pos comments will flow into the thread.
That is the risk of posting.
I actually posted this notice of Chuck's video FIRST on 8/27. However, it did not result in the dealer/manufacturer having to buy back his tractor.
The E series deeres are an economy tractor to compete in a global market. The kubota model represents a more premium version in comparison. Deere makes some fine tractors, those that enjoy an M or R after the model #.
If you ( Lightning Camero) wish to invest in an E model, that is wholly your business. If someone asks for input on TBN and subsequently rejects the input, that is also their prerogative. But both neg and pos comments will flow into the thread.
That is the risk of posting.
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Well sure Chucky is championing his ****. There's no way that guy is experiencing those problems and isn't highly pissed about it, but who wants to buy a near $50K tractor and say, "man this thing has been a POS, and a real lemon for me, and I regret purchasing it."? Those are really stupid, but big problems to be having especially in a tractor that new. That just translates to poor quality. Have people had problems with 5E's? Of course. People have had issues with F150's, Silverados, Cummins diesels, etc. That's not to say that they are crap in general, but even the brands that people try and promote as being the most quality and reliability have plenty of work performed on their machines based on issues or problems with them that need to be fixed whether warranted or otherwise.
Basically I don't really take people who claim an E series Deere as being cheap, overly budgeted, stripped down, no frills machines seriously, and they come across as being haters talking chit, or people who just don't really know what they're talking about, and are talking off something they read online more than likely.
If you claim that the M series Kubota and 5E series JD aren't direct competitors then you're one of 3 things:
A) You're just a JD hater talking chit to save face for either yourself or the brand/machine you're a slave to.
B) You are just honestly really stupid and you just follow some BS narrative.
C) You're just ignorant and really don't know what you're talking about. You haven't researched, looked at, spend time at the dealers inquiring about the models you're interested in, and driven both machines.
If you look at both the M series Kubota and the 5E series JD it's easy to see that they are direct competitors. They have their differences, but they are similar machines that have most of the features the other one has, and they're priced almost identical to one another. In fact when being quoted on open station, FEL equipped, 4WD, 12x12 powershuttle models I was quoted a $200 difference between the two. Their loader and 3PH are very closely spec'd to one another. Similar tire spec's to each other. A JD M series or R series (if JD even made a 5R with less than 90 HP) are much nicer/higherend machines than either a 5E or M series Kubota. Even a 5075E has over a 700 lb weight advantage over a M7060 where a 5075M has about a 1400 lb weight advantage over it. Its "standard" 3ph is rated to lift over 1400 lbs more than a M7060's 3ph, and a 5075M has an optional 3ph that adds about an extra 1300 lbs of lift capability to its standard 3PH. It's FEL is spec'd to lift over 1000 lbs over a M7060's loader, bigger front tires, etc. A 5075M also generally sells for an extra $15K+ extra what a M7060 spec'd as similarly to a 5075M as you can get will generally sell for. No a M series Kubota is not as highend or capable a machine as a 5M or 5R series JD. Is it a better value? IMO yes. I looked at a 5075M and it was nice, but I didn't find it to be an extra $15K nicer than either a 5075E or M7060, but a nicer, heavier, better build machine nontheless. So yes the 5E is the series of tractor that JD builds to compete directly with Kubota M series. The M and R series JD are for bigger farms and ballers with deep pockets.
Basically I don't really take people who claim an E series Deere as being cheap, overly budgeted, stripped down, no frills machines seriously, and they come across as being haters talking chit, or people who just don't really know what they're talking about, and are talking off something they read online more than likely.
If you claim that the M series Kubota and 5E series JD aren't direct competitors then you're one of 3 things:
A) You're just a JD hater talking chit to save face for either yourself or the brand/machine you're a slave to.
B) You are just honestly really stupid and you just follow some BS narrative.
C) You're just ignorant and really don't know what you're talking about. You haven't researched, looked at, spend time at the dealers inquiring about the models you're interested in, and driven both machines.
If you look at both the M series Kubota and the 5E series JD it's easy to see that they are direct competitors. They have their differences, but they are similar machines that have most of the features the other one has, and they're priced almost identical to one another. In fact when being quoted on open station, FEL equipped, 4WD, 12x12 powershuttle models I was quoted a $200 difference between the two. Their loader and 3PH are very closely spec'd to one another. Similar tire spec's to each other. A JD M series or R series (if JD even made a 5R with less than 90 HP) are much nicer/higherend machines than either a 5E or M series Kubota. Even a 5075E has over a 700 lb weight advantage over a M7060 where a 5075M has about a 1400 lb weight advantage over it. Its "standard" 3ph is rated to lift over 1400 lbs more than a M7060's 3ph, and a 5075M has an optional 3ph that adds about an extra 1300 lbs of lift capability to its standard 3PH. It's FEL is spec'd to lift over 1000 lbs over a M7060's loader, bigger front tires, etc. A 5075M also generally sells for an extra $15K+ extra what a M7060 spec'd as similarly to a 5075M as you can get will generally sell for. No a M series Kubota is not as highend or capable a machine as a 5M or 5R series JD. Is it a better value? IMO yes. I looked at a 5075M and it was nice, but I didn't find it to be an extra $15K nicer than either a 5075E or M7060, but a nicer, heavier, better build machine nontheless. So yes the 5E is the series of tractor that JD builds to compete directly with Kubota M series. The M and R series JD are for bigger farms and ballers with deep pockets.
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I just bought a M7060HD12 ROPS. I paid $39K for it which included cast wheels, wider tires, extra hydraulic remote and FEL. I like it so far and only have 4 hrs on it. I have been burned by John Deere in the past and decided and I would no longer support them. I have heard that if less than 100HP, go Kubota, if over 100HP, go John Deere.
Lastly, go talk to Barlows in KY, those guys are solid and will do you right if your local dealer won't. They have the best prices bar none.
Lastly, go talk to Barlows in KY, those guys are solid and will do you right if your local dealer won't. They have the best prices bar none.
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When the discussion is reduced to personal insults and the other party has nothing else to support their position, it is pointless to continue. When persuasion is void of facts, the true nature of the aggressor is laid bare for all to see.
When the discussion is reduced to personal insults and the other party has nothing else to support their position, it is pointless to continue. When persuasion is void of facts, the true nature of the aggressor is laid bare for all to see.
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To post 19:
Why don't you speak your mind and quit trying to front like you're some kind of philosopher? I was speaking facts. You were just trying to promote a reason not to buy a JD 5E to champion a brand or machine you hold a bias towards. You look for a video you've seen where someone has had issues with a 5065E to try and show reason not to buy one, but then neglect to post another much more recent video that you yourself already posted in the Kubota section on this forum showing someone having major mechanical issues and very poor dealer support with a M7060. What would you, or any other member trying to champion a M7060 think if someone like me were to just post videos of a M7060 having issues in a thread asking to compare 5E and Kubota M series to try and paint the Kubota as a POS, but then I also fail to show where people have also had issues with 5E's? It's like someone saying, "Don't buy an F150. It's a POS. Just watch this video where this guy had a problem with it. Get a Silverado as they are super quality and reliable." That might get some F150 owners rebuttaling with the same argument of "Look at this guy having a bunch of issues with his Silverado. It's obvious a poorly built truck."
Then you start pushing the narrative of a JD E series meaning "economy series," (which I'm pretty sure that wasn't what JD intended the E to stand for) and that a M7060 is a higherend machine. Yes the E series is the bottom of the JD totem pole, but that doesn't say much about the competition as a E series is a pretty nice tractor, and you still have the M and R series to go. Again 5E and the Kubota M series are very comparable machines and IMO nicer than their main competition from most other manufacturers. I find both to be nicer machines than say CNH Farmall/Workmaster A series, but not quite on the level of a Farmall/Workmaster C series. I find both to be nicer machines than MF 2600H series, but not quite on a 4700 series level. And not just from features and amenities, but from weight/size/tire selection/tranny option/hydraulics/etc. This is comparing what you might consider Ag utility machines. Not quite row crop machines, but certainly not compact tractors.
The 5E's and Kubota M series have more in common with one another than they do with most any other model of tractors that I can think of. In their most basic state I would say that the 5E is more basic, but for about an extra $2500 or so you get a 12x12 powershuttle, ePTO, 540E, tilt steering, etc. They both come with FEL joystick mounted in the same location, hand throttle mounted on the rear fender, telescoping 3PH ends, cupholder, and all the other niceities that open station tractors might have. When talking cabbed models IDK if a 5E (or a M7060 for that matter) can be opinioned with 3PH controls on the rear fender or not, but most other common niceities it has. Is it as nice as a M or R series? Of course not, but the E still gets you heat, A/C, radio, fancy seat, economically relocated controls, etc. It's a pretty nice cab, and the 5E's have plenty of options you can ✔ when ordering one. Plus both machines carry about the same price, and as I already said their FEL and 3PH rating are very close to one another. Comparing a 5075E to a M7060 is like comparing a Mustang GT to a Camaro SS, or a WRX STi to a Lancer EVO. Very similar cars made to compete directly with the other. Comparing a M7060 to a 5075M is like comparing a Mustang GT to a Camaro ZL1. One being a mid-$30K, N/A car with mid-400 HP, the other a low-$60K, supercharged car with mid-600 HP. Not direct competitors.
If you don't believe me when I say a 5075E and M7060 are very comparable tractors then I would recommend visiting dealers from both brands, and looking at/driving both when configured similarly. If you don't want to do that then you shouldn't be on here pushing this narrative that these aren't machines competitive with one another, or even in the same class. I would recommend a 2018 5E as it was noticeably updated compared to the older models to give it some nicer features, and make it noticeably more ergonomic than it was to IMO put it on the Kubota M series level for comfort.
Why don't you speak your mind and quit trying to front like you're some kind of philosopher? I was speaking facts. You were just trying to promote a reason not to buy a JD 5E to champion a brand or machine you hold a bias towards. You look for a video you've seen where someone has had issues with a 5065E to try and show reason not to buy one, but then neglect to post another much more recent video that you yourself already posted in the Kubota section on this forum showing someone having major mechanical issues and very poor dealer support with a M7060. What would you, or any other member trying to champion a M7060 think if someone like me were to just post videos of a M7060 having issues in a thread asking to compare 5E and Kubota M series to try and paint the Kubota as a POS, but then I also fail to show where people have also had issues with 5E's? It's like someone saying, "Don't buy an F150. It's a POS. Just watch this video where this guy had a problem with it. Get a Silverado as they are super quality and reliable." That might get some F150 owners rebuttaling with the same argument of "Look at this guy having a bunch of issues with his Silverado. It's obvious a poorly built truck."
Then you start pushing the narrative of a JD E series meaning "economy series," (which I'm pretty sure that wasn't what JD intended the E to stand for) and that a M7060 is a higherend machine. Yes the E series is the bottom of the JD totem pole, but that doesn't say much about the competition as a E series is a pretty nice tractor, and you still have the M and R series to go. Again 5E and the Kubota M series are very comparable machines and IMO nicer than their main competition from most other manufacturers. I find both to be nicer machines than say CNH Farmall/Workmaster A series, but not quite on the level of a Farmall/Workmaster C series. I find both to be nicer machines than MF 2600H series, but not quite on a 4700 series level. And not just from features and amenities, but from weight/size/tire selection/tranny option/hydraulics/etc. This is comparing what you might consider Ag utility machines. Not quite row crop machines, but certainly not compact tractors.
The 5E's and Kubota M series have more in common with one another than they do with most any other model of tractors that I can think of. In their most basic state I would say that the 5E is more basic, but for about an extra $2500 or so you get a 12x12 powershuttle, ePTO, 540E, tilt steering, etc. They both come with FEL joystick mounted in the same location, hand throttle mounted on the rear fender, telescoping 3PH ends, cupholder, and all the other niceities that open station tractors might have. When talking cabbed models IDK if a 5E (or a M7060 for that matter) can be opinioned with 3PH controls on the rear fender or not, but most other common niceities it has. Is it as nice as a M or R series? Of course not, but the E still gets you heat, A/C, radio, fancy seat, economically relocated controls, etc. It's a pretty nice cab, and the 5E's have plenty of options you can ✔ when ordering one. Plus both machines carry about the same price, and as I already said their FEL and 3PH rating are very close to one another. Comparing a 5075E to a M7060 is like comparing a Mustang GT to a Camaro SS, or a WRX STi to a Lancer EVO. Very similar cars made to compete directly with the other. Comparing a M7060 to a 5075M is like comparing a Mustang GT to a Camaro ZL1. One being a mid-$30K, N/A car with mid-400 HP, the other a low-$60K, supercharged car with mid-600 HP. Not direct competitors.
If you don't believe me when I say a 5075E and M7060 are very comparable tractors then I would recommend visiting dealers from both brands, and looking at/driving both when configured similarly. If you don't want to do that then you shouldn't be on here pushing this narrative that these aren't machines competitive with one another, or even in the same class. I would recommend a 2018 5E as it was noticeably updated compared to the older models to give it some nicer features, and make it noticeably more ergonomic than it was to IMO put it on the Kubota M series level for comfort.
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