Deere 455 & MC519

[sacarmic]

I got a used MC519 for my 455. It didn't come with an attachment for the 455. So, my question is for anyone who has this setup, do I just need two bolts(with some type of spacer) for the two holes in the side the the hitch bracket for the MC519 to attach to? IS is there another bracket I need.

Thanks,
Scott

 

[cooper99]

I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to when you talk about a spacer for the bolts. I have a 455 with MC519 cart. Look at this picture of my rear end setup and see if that helps. I just have the standard 2 bolts.

Do you have the parts that attach the blower assembly to the mower deck?

There is a front hangar bar that attaches to the deck, a chute guard on the deck, and an additional sheave on the outside blade spindle where you attach the pulley from the blower unit.

 

[sacarmic]

Thanks, that REALLY helps! I have all the parts for the deck, just no sure how the cart attached to the tractor at the back. It looks like I just need the two bolts to connect the MC519 to, but I want to make sure, so I will look tonight.

Scott

 

[TimS]

Scott, look carefully at the picture again - the bolts are not attached directly to the rear tractor frame, but rather to a separate U-shaped bracket that bolts to that rear frame. And in this installation, the hitch ball is used to hold the bracket in place - I just use a bolt on my 455 / MC519, but it's the same idea.

You'll need that bracket and the attaching hardware.

Tim

 

[cooper99]

Yep, very good to notice that Tim. I guess I forgot the dealer installed those bolts and bracket many years ago and just assumed it was on all 455's.

Good luck Scott.

 

[jenkinsph]

On my x749 I have the limited cat 1 hitch, looks like this will interfere with the MC 519 hookup. Has anyone converted an MC 519 cart to IMatch?

I ordered a new MC519 cart with the blower for my mower early this week, the dealer wasn't sure how much trouble this would be to modify, I guess I will find out in a few days. Any input would be appreciated.

 

[beenthere]

I tired of the bracket that came with the MC519 cart that had the hook and sliding lock (too often it came unhooked and bent things up real quick). So I had a piece of flat steel bent that would molt to the cart and then just dropped pins in to the standard rear frame of the 425/445.
Pics here are of the bracket on the 425 and just the frame on the 445 where you see the holes where the bracket attaches.
I don't lose the cart anymore, and hooking up isn't much different than before.

 

[jenkinsph]

I tired of the bracket that came with the MC519 cart that had the hook and sliding lock (too often it came unhooked and bent things up real quick). So I had a piece of flat steel bent that would molt to the cart and then just dropped pins in to the standard rear frame of the 425/445.
Pics here are of the bracket on the 425 and just the frame on the 445 where you see the holes where the bracket attaches.
I don't lose the cart anymore, and hooking up isn't much different than before.

I haven't seen the MC 519 cart in person but from your pictures it appears that I might be able to attach a horizontal drawbar to the cart and use an IMatch. I can adjust the tongue length as needed. Does this sound possible to you?

 

[beenthere]

Yes, I think that iMatch would work fine.
Just may set back further and you'd need a longer chute so when the MC519 cart is in the dump position the telescoping chute doesn't separate.

 

[jenkinsph]

Yes, I think that iMatch would work fine.
Just may set back further and you'd need a longer chute so when the MC519 cart is in the dump position the telescoping chute doesn't separate.

Thanks for the reply, I think I would rather extend the chute than take the IMatch and hydraulic top link off to use it. Should be in within a week or so and will post pics of any modifications I do.

 

[TimS]

On my x749 I have the limited cat 1 hitch, looks like this will interfere with the MC 519 hookup. Has anyone converted an MC 519 cart to IMatch?

I ordered a new MC519 cart with the blower for my mower early this week, the dealer wasn't sure how much trouble this would be to modify, I guess I will find out in a few days. Any input would be appreciated.

I have a 3 point on my 455. It's simple to unpin the arms and then you use the same pins and holes to hook up the 519 bracket. No great need to fabricate your own - it all works well.

Tim

 

[jenkinsph]

I have a 3 point on my 455. It's simple to unpin the arms and then you use the same pins and holes to hook up the 519 bracket. No great need to fabricate your own - it all works well.

Tim

Thanks Tim,
I am also adding a hydraulic top link for the IMatch and wan't to keep it all hooked up. I use this mower for commercial work, so changing implements on the fly is important, bad enough to have to add/delete the deck. If it looks problematic I will do as you say.

 

[beenthere]

Having the 3 pt, seems that something could be designed that would open the cart top when the 3 pt was raised so the cart would dump. May even be easier to design with the addition of the hyd. top link.


I bought a hyd. dump for my cart years back, and not having to get off to dump the cart is a real treat.

 

[jenkinsph]

Having the 3 pt, seems that something could be designed that would open the cart top when the 3 pt was raised so the cart would dump. May even be easier to design with the addition of the hyd. top link.


I bought a hyd. dump for my cart years back, and not having to get off to dump the cart is a real treat.

You make a good point, as I am adding a hydraulic top link next week or so. I could install a diverter at the back or simply unplug the top link and hook up the lift cylinder hoses and set it up as you have done.

I appreciate you posting the picture as it makes it easy to see how the cart hooks up. I think it shoult adapt to IMatch easily. I have a horizontal drawbar that has been sitting in my shed for 15 years, looks like a good use for it.

What I really wanted was a hydraulic dump type that could dump into my PJ dump trailer

 

[sacarmic]

beenthere. thanks for the pick. I really like your new bracket. Thanks looks a better setup. As for your hydraulic dump, is that the kit sold off ebay?

Thanks to everyone else for your advice.

 

[beenthere]

Thanks.
I bought mine through the local Deere dealer. Have no idea if they are on eBay.

Mid State Equipment, Prairie du Sac, WI.

It was a while ago that I bought mine, but have heard they still sell them. Several that I know have them around here.

I back my rig onto the trailer and dump it. Use the tipped up box as a push bar to bulldoze and pack it further back and higher. Seems to work quite handy that way.

 

[jenkinsph]

Thanks.
I bought mine through the local Deere dealer. Have no idea if they are on eBay.

Mid State Equipment, Prairie du Sac, WI.

It was a while ago that I bought mine, but have heard they still sell them. Several that I know have them around here.

I back my rig onto the trailer and dump it. Use the tipped up box as a push bar to bulldoze and pack it further back and higher. Seems to work quite handy that way.

Thanks for the info on the lift kit. I was thinking this past weekend that I could back up the ramps to unload inside my dump trailer. The current ramps are heavy and cumbersome as they are designed to be used with a skidsteer. Think I will build some lighter ramps for the x749 that would make this whole scenario work much better. Thanks again for all the tips and information.

 

[rabbitking61]

I also purchased a used MC519 cart and blower for my 445. I believe it did take a connector bracket for it. However I have a 3 point hitch on my 445. What I did was to make the 3PH arms easily removable by using pins with hairpins. I then use the brackets that the 3PH arms conect to with the pins in the brackets. For me it works great. I am sure that you will love the MC519 system and you will find that the blower and top removes very easily and you can use the cart as a motorized wheelbarrow.

I would advise that a chain be installed to creat a stop when you dump the cart. with out a stop, you can break the lift cusion cylinder.

Enjoy it!

 

[beenthere]

rabbitking
Do you have a pic of the lift system you use? Would be interesting to see how it is rigged up.
Not sure what the cusion cylinder is, but maybe just a typo.

 

[rabbitking61]

The cushion cylinder is not really a lift cylinder, it just cushions it from ramming up or slamming down fast. It is what came with it and broke. I bought a new one but did not get the new end that broke. That Is why I reccomend to put a chain on for the upward stop. That is why mine broke.

Actually it works on the same principle as a screen door cylinder.