breadtrk
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KiwiBro. I had a vibration in the steering wheel and column assembly at certain speed and rpm, dealer was able to fix when I took back for 50hr service, they said too much air pressure in front tires and they rotated front wheels on center section. Also clock want hold correct time. Thanks
breadtrk
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I've been communicating with them for 2 days via text, PM and Email. All I can say is I'm impressed. I'm going to do the 2 hour drive to see if they are real. Rules prohibit me form tossing names but every one knows why I'm not happy with my dealer. I'll drive the extra hour (cause I like to drive down the road toting my sexy tractor) to get to a real shop.
I'll give an honest opinion of what I find. I'm easy, I'll be happy with a concrete floor.
I'll give an honest opinion of what I find. I'm easy, I'll be happy with a concrete floor.
KiwiBro
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Thanks.
Mongoose
Thank you for taking time to join as well as answer questions, I was looking at trading up from my U-5020 to a U-5030 or a XU-5065. In looking at the specifications from LS on their website I noticed that the 5030 engine is 203.3 cu.in. and is rated at 55 HP and the XU5065 is 135.2 cu.in. rated at 65 HP. I am not a diesel engine expert but most times to get more HP you have more displacement unless you increase compression or other means as stroke.
My question is with the reduction of displacement is there a reduction of life and an increase in service intervals that increases cost for lubes an filters? Really would like to go to the power shuttle as what little i have heard once you have one you will never go back to the old sync shift. I am planning on this as a long term ownership not planning to sell so it is an important decision.
Thank you for the info
Thank you for taking time to join as well as answer questions, I was looking at trading up from my U-5020 to a U-5030 or a XU-5065. In looking at the specifications from LS on their website I noticed that the 5030 engine is 203.3 cu.in. and is rated at 55 HP and the XU5065 is 135.2 cu.in. rated at 65 HP. I am not a diesel engine expert but most times to get more HP you have more displacement unless you increase compression or other means as stroke.
My question is with the reduction of displacement is there a reduction of life and an increase in service intervals that increases cost for lubes an filters? Really would like to go to the power shuttle as what little i have heard once you have one you will never go back to the old sync shift. I am planning on this as a long term ownership not planning to sell so it is an important decision.
Thank you for the info
Mongoose
Thank you for taking time to join as well as answer questions, I was looking at trading up from my U-5020 to a U-5030 or a XU-5065. In looking at the specifications from LS on their website I noticed that the 5030 engine is 203.3 cu.in. and is rated at 55 HP and the XU5065 is 135.2 cu.in. rated at 65 HP. I am not a diesel engine expert but most times to get more HP you have more displacement unless you increase compression or other means as stroke.
My question is with the reduction of displacement is there a reduction of life and an increase in service intervals that increases cost for lubes an filters? Really would like to go to the power shuttle as what little i have heard once you have one you will never go back to the old sync shift. I am planning on this as a long term ownership not planning to sell so it is an important decision.
Thank you for the info
Thank you for taking time to join as well as answer questions, I was looking at trading up from my U-5020 to a U-5030 or a XU-5065. In looking at the specifications from LS on their website I noticed that the 5030 engine is 203.3 cu.in. and is rated at 55 HP and the XU5065 is 135.2 cu.in. rated at 65 HP. I am not a diesel engine expert but most times to get more HP you have more displacement unless you increase compression or other means as stroke.
My question is with the reduction of displacement is there a reduction of life and an increase in service intervals that increases cost for lubes an filters? Really would like to go to the power shuttle as what little i have heard once you have one you will never go back to the old sync shift. I am planning on this as a long term ownership not planning to sell so it is an important decision.
Thank you for the info
GManBart
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The U-5030 engine is naturally aspirated, and indirect injection, where the XU-5065 is turbocharged, and common rail direct injection. That's going from one of the least efficient, to most efficient systems, hence the higher output from less displacement.
Even at the higher output per cubic inch, the XU engine isn't anywhere near highly stressed, and should last many thousands of hours without major problems.
KiwiBro
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Further to this the rated RPM's vary a bit between those two engines and I suspect the stroke lengths will too.
As an aside, the XU5065 engine rated HP and rpm on the LS website don't seem to match those published by the manufacturer, Shibaura. I don't know if different testing methods were used.
As an aside, the XU5065 engine rated HP and rpm on the LS website don't seem to match those published by the manufacturer, Shibaura. I don't know if different testing methods were used.
I noticed that the kw rating was lower on Shibaura than what LS is rating them at.
Thanks GmanBart, , maybe i just need a turbo on my 5020 haha!
ProdaddyTX
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XU series engines
Everytime I see a chance to chime in with a useful answer it seems like you've already beat me to the punch! LOL Good job, GMan!
That's exactly right, the high injection pressures (26,000 - 29,000 psi) atomize the fuel so well that the exhaust is clean without any regen, and you can tune for more power, better fuel economy, or both. In the case of the XU5055, you'll get up to 18% better fuel economy than the U5030's Mitsubishi engine rated for the same output. Additionally these Shibaura engines, relative to the outgoing Mitsus, have a solid block / captured crank design, fewer internal moving parts since they use a serpentine belt, and a better lubrication scheme with dedicated oil lines providing positive lubrication everywhere it's needed in the engine.
We first started learning about these engines on a LS sponsored dealer trip to Korea 2 years ago, and then in tech classes beginning 1.5 years ago just before they became available for sale. The more we learn, the more we like! Other than one customer damaging his main wiring harness with some modification, they've been 100% trouble free so far, and we fully expect that trend to continue.
Everytime I see a chance to chime in with a useful answer it seems like you've already beat me to the punch! LOL Good job, GMan!
That's exactly right, the high injection pressures (26,000 - 29,000 psi) atomize the fuel so well that the exhaust is clean without any regen, and you can tune for more power, better fuel economy, or both. In the case of the XU5055, you'll get up to 18% better fuel economy than the U5030's Mitsubishi engine rated for the same output. Additionally these Shibaura engines, relative to the outgoing Mitsus, have a solid block / captured crank design, fewer internal moving parts since they use a serpentine belt, and a better lubrication scheme with dedicated oil lines providing positive lubrication everywhere it's needed in the engine.
We first started learning about these engines on a LS sponsored dealer trip to Korea 2 years ago, and then in tech classes beginning 1.5 years ago just before they became available for sale. The more we learn, the more we like! Other than one customer damaging his main wiring harness with some modification, they've been 100% trouble free so far, and we fully expect that trend to continue.