CT230 backhoe?

[Slackdaddy]

Woods does not make a sub frame for the Bobcat line of tractors.
The subframe bolts to the loader, they only make a subframe that bolts to the Kioti loader. That said, a few hours of fabbing to modifly the woods sub frame and it should bolt up. I looked closley at the kioti and rhino (Bobcat) loaders a few years ago, Putting the woods subframe on the Bobcat looked do-able with a little work.
BUT - Bobcat is funny about the warranty, I was "told" any modifications or non-Bobcat attachments voids the warranty, even welding on bucket hooks or loading the tires.

 

[bird1968]

I have coveted a single tooth root ripper for years but have never found anyone who sells one for anything less than a medium sized excavator (except for Brotek who makes them only for the BX).

FYI We do make them for multiple size/brand, email us bro-tek@hotmail.com

 

[VictorW]

I agree with the others that the Woods BX90 would be to much for your tractor as it would be for my Kioti CK30hst. The extra weight and force would probably be to much for our tractor size and something would probably let go under the added stress. Islands DK40 is a much bigger and heavier built tractor that can handle the 90. The 80 would be a good fit, if it could mount up or something similar in a Rhino brand. If your warranty is as mentioned, then you may have to stick with the Bobcat bh. Their loaders seem to do fine so I would think their bh would be just as good. Your tractor, like mine, has a 12 gpm pump and is plenty to run the bh from a set of rear remotes. That's how mine is set up and it works well. I don't see the need or expense for a pto driven pump just for the bh.
Not to argue with another member but a bh has bucket force, the curling of the bucket, dipper force, the arm connected to the bucket, and then the boom, the other arm connected at the botton of the bh closest to the tractor. The dipper is what you mainly use to pull back towards you while the boom is mainly raising.
For my stump digging I have a 9 inch bucket. For me, it makes it easier to dig around the roots and stump. I've dug trenches with it but it can plug up at times in heavy or clay dirt. It gets old shaking the bucket everytime to get it to empty but it does make a nice narrow trench for pipe and such. For all around digging, I use an 18 inch bucket.

 

[IslandTractor]

Not to argue with another member but a bh has bucket force, the curling of the bucket, dipper force, the arm connected to the bucket, and then the boom, the other arm connected at the botton of the bh closest to the tractor. The dipper is what you mainly use to pull back towards you while the boom is mainly raising.

I find that it is the bucket curl that tends to be most useful in actually breaking roots. In practice I guess I tend to both curl and pull on the dipper simultaneously most often but with stubborn roots I tend to wiggle the bucket underneath the root and then curl using the ground on the back of the bucket to help create a wedge like effect so the bucket can cut the root.

 

[VictorW]

I find that it is the bucket curl that tends to be most useful in actually breaking roots. In practice I guess I tend to both curl and pull on the dipper simultaneously most often but with stubborn roots I tend to wiggle the bucket underneath the root and then curl using the ground on the back of the bucket to help create a wedge like effect so the bucket can cut the root.

The bucket curl does seem to be the strongest and works great when used as you suggested. I've even pushed the dirt under the bucket while curling if the root is very stubborn. I was just pointing out the main parts of the bh as was questioned and not necessarily their best uses.

 

[galaxie428]

Thanks for all your help and suggestions. I will talk with my BC salesperson about their BH along with comparing it to others. I did notice by just doing my own checking that the specs on the Woods BX80 is better than that of the BC 7TB. For instance, the bucket digging force is 3780 on the woods and 2827 on the BC. The Woods has a deeper digging depth also. Of course those are just numbers and there may be no difference in performance.

But as you guys mentioned, it may come down to warranty issues. I will just have to talk to BC to see what they say.

Thanks again for your help.

 

[IslandTractor]

I did notice by just doing my own checking that the specs on the Woods BX80 is better than that of the BC 7TB. For instance, the bucket digging force is 3780 on the woods and 2827 on the BC. The Woods has a deeper digging depth also. Of course those are just numbers and there may be no difference in performance.

Numbers like those actually do predict performance and a 33% increase would definitely be noticable.

The Woods could be a little bigger (just guessing but the Woods is a 8ft BH while the BC7TB sounds like it might be a 7footer.) Compare the 70x Woods to the BC7TB. Or, perhaps Woods may be quoting their bucket power position specs(some Woods loaders (90x definitely) have two positions for the bucket, one power and one regular. You can get more power as a tradeoff for ?reach with a second mounting spot). I dig up a lot of stumps so leave my 90x in the power position.

 

[qed-cat225]

I have limited knowledge on the backhoe but make sure you know what attachments you want to use etc cause I know the backhoe from conflicts with other BC attachments such as mid mower or front blower

 

[wallace]

The OEM backhoe is a Rhino backhoe painted white and branded Bobcat.
It is a 7'6" digging depth.
Bobcat lists the 7tb being the biggest they will put on.
Rhino list that you can put a 85 on the Kioti Ck25,27,30,35 and we all know what that means.
Woods will allow you to put either a 70 or 80X on.
Warranty????
That is up to your dealer.
I have a 55hp Kioti a my shop and it has a Woods 90X on it. It broke 2 bolts and one of the bolts happen to crack the rear Axel housing. Woods paid me to fix everything.
Like I said it comes down to the dealer.
You and your dealer need to be smart enough to know and admit what cause the failure the manufacture of the tractor or the manufacture of the attachment. And more than likely the most important one I almost left out...The operator!

 

[galaxie428]

The OEM backhoe is a Rhino backhoe painted white and branded Bobcat.
It is a 7'6" digging depth.
Bobcat lists the 7tb being the biggest they will put on.
Rhino list that you can put a 85 on the Kioti Ck25,27,30,35 and we all know what that means.
Woods will allow you to put either a 70 or 80X on.

So I am really not comparing apples to apples being the Rhino/BC BH is a 7'6" and the 80X is a 8' BH. Does the digging depth matter as far as bucket digging force because there is a significant difference there?

It sounds like Rhino's 85 is somewhat comparable to the Woods 90x. They both say they are compatible with a 30hp tractor however, most everyone says they are too big.

I am not against a Rhino/BC BH and do not have experience with Rhino or Woods but the specs on the Woods is quite a bit more as I mentioned above. And, a guy has the Woods BH80X on EBay for only $52xx. That does not include the subframe which was quoted for an additional $9xx. That is a pretty good price compared to the quotes I have gotten so far on either the Woods or the Rhino.

In talking with tech support at Woods though, they say they do not make a subframe for a Bobcat tractor even though I had two other sales guys quoting me a subframe. Maybe they are having someone else manufature it?

Rick - You have experience with both the Kioti and the BC so what is your take on whether a subframe mount for a Kioti (which Woods makes) would fit on the BC with little to no modification? Slackdaddy mentioned above that it is close.