Coyote hunter experts???

[Raspy]

Shoot on sight is just ridiculous.

Absolutely. Shoot on site means shooting out of irrational fear, or shooting just for fun. Either way, it doesn't mean a reduction in their numbers. If you find one killing your animals, absolutely take him out, but if you find one minding it's own business, or hunting rodents, leave it alone.

 

[CMV]

Absolutely. Shoot on site means shooting out of irrational fear, or shooting just for fun. Either way, it doesn't mean a reduction in their numbers. If you find one killing your animals, absolutely take him out, but if you find one minding it's own business, or hunting rodents, leave it alone.

Until it gets your pet or livestock...then kill it..... It isn't coming around to say hi.....

 

[Raspy]

Until it gets your pet or livestock...then kill it..... It isn't coming around to say hi.....

That is what I said. If it is killing your animals, take it out. But just because you hear one, or see one, doesn't mean it is coming for your animals. I hear them around here almost every night, but I don't know of anyone close by that has lost a pet or livestock to one of them. I recognize they can be dangerous, but no way I'm going to use them for target practice, or sit up at night with my rifle pointed out the window waiting. Just because they are close by does not mean they are coming for your animals. And anyone who thinks they can reduce their numbers by shooting a few is delusional. Take out the few problem ones, scare them off with electric fences if needed, but don't live in fear of them. If you walk in the wild areas, go armed. You might encounter a mountain lion, a pack of dogs, a pack of coyotes or a bear. Best to be prepared. But why go out of your way to shoot an animal that is not causing you any problems? BTW, their favorite food is rabbit, mice and vols.

 

[atsah]

It happens.

LeAnn Rimes’ dog dies after being mauled by coyote in front of her: '''You were and always will be our angel''' | Fox News

 

[ovrszd]

These stories remind me of videos of LEOs dealing with misbehaving citizens. Always wonder what happened a moment before.

So,,, are we to believe the dog was just hanging out minding it's own business when suddenly a coyote came charging across the lawn, attacked and killed the dog, then disappeared into the dark forest? While they were just feet away?? And they had to stand there and watch the mayhem?

Hmmmm... I struggle with that....

 

[atsah]

Either way it happens, I don't try to figure out if they stand there or how long they stood there watching.

 

[two_bit_score]

It happens.

LeAnn Rimes’ dog dies after being mauled by coyote in front of her: '''You were and always will be our angel''' | Fox News

These stories remind me of videos of LEOs dealing with misbehaving citizens. Always wonder what happened a moment before.

So,,, are we to believe the dog was just hanging out minding it's own business when suddenly a coyote came charging across the lawn, attacked and killed the dog, then disappeared into the dark forest? While they were just feet away?? And they had to stand there and watch the mayhem?

Hmmmm... I struggle with that....

Either way it happens, I don't try to figure out if they stand there or how long they stood there watching.

I have watched through a scope a coyote stalk calves and creep up on them. Watched the coyote crawl on his belly toward a calf. When he raised up like he was getting ready to jump I shot him.

I wasn't hunting coyotes that day but was looking for feral hogs.




TBS

 

[atsah]

We shoot them all the time for good reason.. We don't just kill animals for the heck of it. People that aren't impacted by them are quick to say there is no reason to manage them.

 

[CPTKILLER]

I agree 110%. Shoot coyotes on site.

I have goats and they are always a problem.

 

[Raspy]

People that like to shoot animals, and I'm not referring to hunting for food, will always think it's cool. If any wild animal is causing you a problem, is rabid, or is trying to kill your animals, it's time to intervene, but if you are looking for something to shoot at, and a coyote wanders by, is it the same as shooting a rattlesnake, or skeet, or a target?

Here's one for you: The next time your dog growls, or chews up something, or chases something, why not shoot it? Isn't the reason, because you have developed a friendship with it? What is that relationship based on? Is it an understanding that your dog is intelligent, feels pain, wants to be part of your pack, and has an inherent value as a living animal? Sounds like coyote behavior to me. If you think coyotes are far different than dogs, explain how they understand each other perfectly, can live together as friends and can mate to produce beautiful dogs. People get cats sometimes just to keep the rodent population under control. Rabbits and rodents are the coyotes favorite food.

Explain how coyotes are different than dogs. More wild, possibly more vicious, yes. Have you ever seen a pack of "domestic" dogs take down a deer, even though they are all well fed and live comfortable lives?

None of this means I would be careless enough to be out in the wild while unarmed or unready to protect myself and others from any wild animal. It simply means I would never use a coyote for target practice or shoot one because it was fun or because it gave me an excuse to shoot something. Why shoot an animal that is in it's own environment and minding it's own business?

Wild animals can be very dangerous and disruptive, but they can be other than that too:

 

[nybirdman]

People that like to shoot animals, and I'm not referring to hunting for food, will always think it's cool. If any wild animal is causing you a problem, is rabid, or is trying to kill your animals, it's time to intervene, but if you are looking for something to shoot at, and a coyote wanders by, is it the same as shooting a rattlesnake, or skeet, or a target?

Here's one for you: The next time your dog growls, or chews up something, or chases something, why not shoot it? Isn't the reason, because you have developed a friendship with it? What is that relationship based on? Is it an understanding that your dog is intelligent, feels pain, wants to be part of your pack, and has an inherent value as a living animal? Sounds like coyote behavior to me. If you think coyotes are far different than dogs, explain how they understand each other perfectly, can live together as friends and can mate to produce beautiful dogs. People get cats sometimes just to keep the rodent population under control. Rabbits and rodents are the coyotes favorite food.

Explain how coyotes are different than dogs. More wild, possibly more vicious, yes. Have you ever seen a pack of "domestic" dogs take down a deer, even though they are all well fed and live comfortable lives?

None of this means I would be careless enough to be out in the wild while unarmed or unready to protect myself and others from any wild animal. It simply means I would never use a coyote for target practice or shoot one because it was fun or because it gave me an excuse to shoot something. Why shoot an animal that is in it's own environment and minding it's own business?

Wild animals can be very dangerous and disruptive, but they can be other than that too:

Sorry I cannot agree with this;coyotes are not dogs but wild animals and should be shot on sight.I have seen what they are capable of many times;loose domestic dogs get the same treatment.

 

[kf4uda]

We have several coyotes around and I have shot a few over the years. I am raising hair sheep now. I don't have a coyote problem. The sheep have their own security team Akbash livestock guardian dogs. They are always ready,willing and very capable.

I do keep a Ruger Mini-14 ready if they ever need backup.

 

[teejk]

I have watched through a scope a coyote stalk calves and creep up on them. Watched the coyote crawl on his belly toward a calf. When he raised up like he was getting ready to jump I shot him.

I wasn't hunting coyotes that day but was looking for feral hogs.




TBS

Years ago a hunting buddy and I were hunting deer in a blinding snowstorm. We decided to give up and were heading back to the truck...he had a coyote stalking him from about 50 feet. At that distance all 5 shots from the 12ga. went high. More recently another friend and I were hunting turkeys from a blind. A few hundred yards away a few deer were observed crossing a field. Minutes later 2 coyotes emerged following the exact same path. The deer made a wide arc (probably 1 mile total) and emerged on our other side. The coyotes were right behind them.

 

[rademamj]

Here in Texas on my ranch, the Coyotes are everywhere and mainly going after field mice. Deer are occasionally stalked, but I have never actually seen them attack a deer. Have seen the Coyotes follow me everywhere I go on the ranch, and for a while i really thought i was being stalked....but they always lay down when about 50 yards away from me, and appear just curious what I am always doing. I put out water for them in the hot Texas summers. I have no need or desire to hunt them.

Surprisingly, I have seen the Coyotes sort of work together with hawks. Coyotes will flush out mice and rodents, and then hawks swoop in for the kill, with no apparent resistance by the Coyotes. Interesting synergy going on between the local wildlife.

 

[ovrszd]

We shoot them all the time for good reason.. We don't just kill animals for the heck of it. People that aren't impacted by them are quick to say there is no reason to manage them.

How much livestock do you lose each year to coyotes?

 

[oosik]

I've watched a coyote stand stalk still - listening I would guess. Then they make a mad jump at the snow and catch a mouse. I've never seen the classic hunting technique. Jump up and come straight down. I'm surprised a coyote can hear/feel a mouse thru a foot of snow.

I get a pair of river otters come thru every spring. They will stop at the lake for a week or so. Fishing, catching, eating bass. And when not doing this - sliding down a bobsled run they make. Down the steep slope and out onto the lake ice.

The otters will catch several bass and throw them out on the ice. Then have a relaxing meal. I've watched a bald eagle swoop down and try to rob a bass from their stash. Seldom works - the river otter are big and cunning. Apparently they see the eagle flying around and know what he is up to.

 

[ovrszd]

View attachment 590958View attachment 590959I agree 110%. Shoot coyotes on site.

I have goats and they are always a problem.

Please don't take offense to this, it's not meant to offend.

Sheep and goats are stupid and have no defense system. It's an easy meal for any predator. Thus Shepards. Only four legged farmed animal in my world that requires constant human care to survive.

So if you have these animals you definitely need to constantly kill predators, coyotes, dogs, eagles, etc.

 

[ovrszd]

Sorry I cannot agree with this;coyotes are not dogs but wild animals and should be shot on sight.I have seen what they are capable of many times;loose domestic dogs get the same treatment.

Yeah, I've saw news stories of domestic dogs killing people.

I can't recall an incident of a coyote killing a human. But maybe I missed it?

 

[oosik]

My neighbor runs about 500 head of whiteface. He loses one or two calves a year. Hard to tell if it's by coyote kill or not. The coyotes will find the calf before he ever gets a chance to examine it closely.

 

[ovrszd]

Here in Texas on my ranch, the Coyotes are everywhere and mainly going after field mice. Deer are occasionally stalked, but I have never actually seen them attack a deer. Have seen the Coyotes follow me everywhere I go on the ranch, and for a while i really thought i was being stalked....but they always lay down when about 50 yards away from me, and appear just curious what I am always doing. I put out water for them in the hot Texas summers. I have no need or desire to hunt them.

Surprisingly, I have seen the Coyotes sort of work together with hawks. Coyotes will flush out mice and rodents, and then hawks swoop in for the kill, with no apparent resistance by the Coyotes. Interesting synergy going on between the local wildlife.

It's my belief the same thing is going on when the coyote shadows you. Cleaning up anything you kick out. Smart.