Corona Virus #7

[ultrarunner]

It’s a sobering sight seeing our navel hospital Comfort moving into New York harbor this morning. Stay strong NYC.

And the needed dredging completed in record time otherwise the birth would be to shallow.

 

[rswyan]

Freezing will not kill it.Wipe the packages down with wipes.

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From our resident physician (IslandTractor) - who is an epidemiologist and I believe specializes in infectious diseases - replying to some "info" posted from Facebook (in blue):

* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. VIRUS PARTICLES ARE VERY STABLE AT MINUS 70 DEGREES CELSIUS WHICH IS WAY COLDER THAN A HOUSEHOLD FREEZER. NO EVIDENCE THAT "NORMAL" TEMPERATURES THAT HUMANS LIVE IN MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO HOW LONG THE VIRUS REMAINS INFECTIOUS.

See his post here:

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...corona-virus-6-a-post5695012.html#post5695012

 

[downsizingnow48]

Glad to see the thread back this morning. Moderator should bench the nuisance posters rather than shut down an active and valuable thread.

 

[locknut]

Depends on the activity. I just read a story about a church choir that decided to hold a practice a few weeks ago. They stayed apart. No one was coughing or exhibiting any signs of illness. However, a bunch of people singing emits a ton of droplets into the air. A bunch of them got sick now, and two have died.

So just staying spaced out might not be enough.

Thanks for that report. I don't think anyone knows just how contagious this virus is. They say it can hang in the air for 3 hrs.From now on,I'm going to Walmart when they first open. Noticed my county,Decatur,is the hotspot in Indiana.

 

[rswyan]

Here's a terrific explanation of how the mathematical models mapping Covid-19 work. But of course all models show variations, depending on assumptions. Which allows vile or venal politicians to attack the mathematicians.

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The Mathematics of Predicting the Course of the Coronavirus | WIRED

 

[MossRoad]

Thanks for that report. I don't think anyone knows just how contagious this virus is. They say it can hang in the air for 3 hrs.From now on,I'm going to Walmart when they first open. Noticed my county,Decatur,is the hotspot in Indiana.

That doesn't appear to be correct. As of yesterday, Decatur County had 40 cases while Marion County had 676.

Total number of coronavirus cases in Indiana tops 1,5 as surgeon general calls Indianapolis an '''emerging hotspot'''

 

[MossRoad]

Choir practice turns fatal. Airborne coronavirus strongly suspected - Los Angeles Times

 

[gsganzer]

Well, some bad news...Looks like I will be posting for a while longer. It has been 14 days since we have been to town. Our last chance at exposure . Incubation period is 2-14 days and we are not showing any symptoms.

My wife and I both ventured out yesterday to get supplies after compiling a comprehensive list. She went to Walmart for food items and I went to TSC and Lowes for feed and hardware. I felt like a germaphobe the whole time. I kept sanitizing my hands every time I got back to my truck and I still felt "dirty". But you're correct, our 14 day clock just reset it's countdown again.

When I got back from my outing, I spread all the items out on my flatbed to bask in the sun and get a good UV soaking. I assume that's adequate for killing the vectors. Not sure I could adequately wipe down all the items I bought.

 

[locknut]

That doesn't appear to be correct. As of yesterday, Decatur County had 40 cases while Marion County had 676.

Total number of coronavirus cases in Indiana tops 1,5 as surgeon general calls Indianapolis an '''emerging hotspot'''

It's correct on a per capita basis. I didn't bookmark the site,sorry.

 

[MossRoad]

Not much you can do about someone driving on a public road. Maybe get the license plate number, vehicle description, etc... and let your local law enforcement know that there has been an unfamiliar vehicle traveling in the area frequently and ask if they could check it out. That's what neighborhood watch programs will do. Your's should be no different. Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[MossRoad]

It's correct on a per capita basis. I didn't bookmark the site,sorry.

Ahh. Per capita. That can be very misleading. A town with 20 people, one person gets sick, and 5% of the population shows up as affected on a map.

 

[Jstpssng]

My wife and I both ventured out yesterday to get supplies after compiling a comprehensive list. She went to Walmart for food items and I went to TSC and Lowes for feed and hardware. I felt like a germaphobe the whole time. I kept sanitizing my hands every time I got back to my truck and I still felt "dirty". But you're correct, our 14 day clock just reset it's countdown again.

When I got back from my outing, I spread all the items out on my flatbed to bask in the sun and get a good UV soaking. I assume that's adequate for killing the vectors. Not sure I could adequately wipe down all the items I bought.

I have a coffee canister with water and bleach, every time I go into a store I wash my hands upon returning to the truck. Today I picked up some cash to go register my truck... and dunked it right into that same water/bleach solution. Then I realized that the town office is closed for the duration.

 

[houstonscott]

The U.S. Tried to Build a New Fleet of Ventilators. The Mission Failed. – DNyuz

 

[rswyan]

Just heard that a relative apparently has COVID-19 ... about 7 days into it ... quarantined at home and apparently doing well so far.

They're fairly young ... so at least they have that going for them.

 

[shooterdon]

Not much you can do about someone driving on a public road. Maybe get the license plate number, vehicle description, etc... and let your local law enforcement know that there has been an unfamiliar vehicle traveling in the area frequently and ask if they could check it out. That's what neighborhood watch programs will do. Your's should be no different. Good luck. :thumbsup:

Agree...but if they are looking for easy targets...they move on elsewhere. The public road dead ends at my gate. There is a turn off for a two track about 150 yards before my gate. So "traffic" is non existent except during snowmobile or off-roading seasons.

I have "met" trucks heading to our place before and always ask, "Are you lost? Do you need directions?"

 

[IslandTractor]

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From our resident physician (IslandTractor) - who is an epidemiologist and I believe specializes in infectious diseases - replying to some "info" posted from Facebook (in blue):



See his post here:

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...corona-virus-6-a-post5695012.html#post5695012

To be clear (the quote from my post (my comments were in caps and I was replying to the first sentence) said "The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
NO EVIDENCE OF THIS. VIRUS PARTICLES ARE VERY STABLE AT MINUS 70 DEGREES CELSIUS WHICH IS WAY COLDER THAN A HOUSEHOLD FREEZER. NO EVIDENCE THAT "NORMAL" TEMPERATURES THAT HUMANS LIVE IN MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO HOW LONG THE VIRUS REMAINS INFECTIOUS.")

My point was that in a virus lab we freeze viruses to minus 70 celsius to keep them stable. They are stable for years at that temperature. Putting a virus in a freezer at minus 20 celsius (typical household freezer) will not keep the virus stable and it will deteriorate, especially with thawing and refreezing as in a frostless fridge. However, if you took a virus contaminated object and put it in the freezer for a day or two it might well still have some active infectious viral particles when you took it out. Freezing in a household fridge is not the same as wiping with dilute 1:50 Clorox solution for example.