Corona Virus #6

[Industrial Toys]

Just like ALL the finger lickers. Something that has bugged me all my life.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

I've wondered when is it worth putting the economy at risk by shutting everything down? That is, how many lives can be written off as just bad luck/wrong place, wrong time? Certainly people die every day for many reasons, and while we try to minimize risk, we don't ban automobile traffic because people die in cars.

I don't know the answer, and would love to hear others perspective on this.

So far, this is what I've come up with. It becomes a problem when it is a significant portion of the daily deaths that would occur otherwise.

However, even that has to be clarified based on region, as hotspots crop up. I looked up NY State mortality statistics and was surprised to find, on average, 404 people die a day. It's been consistent for years.

NY is now having about 150 (I'm not sure of the exact number) deaths per day from COVID-19, and it is continuing to climb. That is problematic for me, and points to a significant crises on the horizon.

Maybe some other areas will get away with fewer mortalities, but I worry that while they appear to be in the clear, that situation will change dramatically in the next few weeks.

I looked at the statistics for Washington State and there were no fatalities from Covid-19 in people below 40 years of age, and the those below 50 make up a total of 1% of the deaths and those under 60 make up 8% while also representing 58% of the confirmed cases. If there were a chart that listed healthy people without underlying conditions the death rate below 60 would most likely show a significant reduction. It seems counterproductive to keep the entire population isolated while only those over 60 or with underlying conditions are the ones really threatened. A more reasoned response might be to order those over 60 to stay home and those under 60 to not contact those staying home. Let everyone else get back to work and set up a system to deliver groceries and other necessities to those who are voluntarily isolated. It seems the government and the media have almost represented this virus as some sort of "Outbreak" kind of contagion with a super high mortality rate. (Reading some of the posts here about the forum becoming silent if the virus spreads it seems more than a few have that belief.) People under 60 might get sicker than they ever have been before, but very small chance of dying, especially if they take reasonable precautions. We simply cannot all stay locked in our homes producing nothing for any great length of time. If we do we will destroy our ability to be able to defend against the next crisis. The current policies are analogous to stopping food and water to a patient to cure him of a cold. Sure, the therapy worked, the cold is gone, but the patient died.

 

[Citydude]

I am sure he will survive. He is young and obviously very dumb.

Yes, and taking medical resources away from people who may need it. Dumb isn’t a strong enough word.

 

[k0ua]

I am sure he will survive. He is young and obviously very dumb.

Apparently there was a women that started the toilet seat licking thing.

A woman has been slammed on social media for an alleged 田oronavirus challenge video that has since gone viral.

Ava Louise, a twice-Dr. Phil guest and accused 田lout-chaser on social media, has recently gone viral for a
bizarre stunt that is getting widely criticized during the global coronavirus pandemic, which is responsible
for 68 deaths and at least 3,700 positive cases in the U.S. alone.


In the video, which was originally shared to TikTok, the 22-year-old aspiring influencer from Miami is seen
licking a toilet seat, allegedly while in a plane bathroom.


Please [retweet] this so people can know how to properly be sanitary on the airplane, she captioned the 6-second clip.


The tweet has been taken down along with the video but judging by the time line she was before the kid in the hospital.

 

[Citydude]

Apparently there was a women that started the toilet seat licking thing.

A woman has been slammed on social media for an alleged 田oronavirus challenge video that has since gone viral.

Ava Louise, a twice-Dr. Phil guest and accused 田lout-chaser on social media, has recently gone viral for a
bizarre stunt that is getting widely criticized during the global coronavirus pandemic, which is responsible
for 68 deaths and at least 3,700 positive cases in the U.S. alone.


In the video, which was originally shared to TikTok, the 22-year-old aspiring influencer from Miami is seen
licking a toilet seat, allegedly while in a plane bathroom.


Please [retweet] this so people can know how to properly be sanitary on the airplane, she captioned the 6-second clip.


The tweet has been taken down along with the video but judging by the time line she was before the kid in the hospital.

Social influencers....

 

[rswyan]

A very simple curve that tells a tragic story
1. China w/ 4 times the population of the US was able to flatten their curve
2. The US has now blown thru China's case N (tip of the iceberg d/t no testing for 2 months) to be the #COVID19 epicenter
3. The worst is yet to come

Twitter

 

[k0ua]

Social influencers....

yeah, we all need more of those...

 

[Industrial Toys]

Actually they say the toilet is often the cleanest thing in the home. I wanna see someone dare to lick the buttons on the payphone at the bus station.

 

[rekees4300]

Story in the SF Chronicle said homeless shelters told NOT to maintain 6 feet distance...

That's one way to solve the homeless problem. Do the beds have a "DNR" sign on them?

 

[rekees4300]

For those of you who still believe this pandemic is just another "flu" type epidemic:

Here痴 a comparison of the first 65 days of the 2009 swine flu in the United States and first 65 days of the 2020 covid-19 outbreak. (from WaPo and CDC)


Swine flu

April 15, 2009 first infection detected
June 19, 2009 21,449 cases, 87 deaths

Covid-19

Jan. 20, 2020 first infection detected
March 25, 2020 69,344 cases, 1,050 deaths

Full article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/27/those-covid-19-death-toll-figures-are-incomplete/

Comparing apples & oranges. Experts are saying Covid-19 is the most infectious virus they have encountered in their lifetimes.