Corona Virus #5

[Molalla1]

When it takes more than a 12 pack, you need to have some self esteem.

:laughing: :drink: Yes!

 

[ovrszd]

Ahhh you guys just care too much about guns. Probably because you're allowed to have those too easily. Different mindsets between continents I guess.

Aboslutely.

25 years ago I was in Seoul South Korea. I was staying in the Hamilton Hotel, downtown in the middle of the Shopping District. Mid-afternoon, sitting on a rock ledge watching the people. They were thick as flies, sidewalks full, bustling here and there literally by the thousands. I had been shopping and had a plastic bag beside me with a pair of shoes I'd bought.

There was a Policeman watching car traffic at the nearby intersection, jammed with cars. I guess it was time for his afternoon break so he came over and sat by me. He could speak broken English. He immediately engaged me in conversation. After a few minutes I asked him why he didn't have a gun? He said he didn't need one. No problems with crime there. as an example he took my pair of shoes out of the bag and walked to the middle of the sidewalk, laid them down and came back and sat by me. I acted a bit nervous about that. He kept smiling at me, waving his hand toward my shoes and saying "Okay", "Okay". He explained that laws were stronger there in regards to small crimes. Not one pedestrian attempted to pick up the shoes. Walked around them without hesitation.

Later that afternoon I watched him stop a car for a traffic violation. He started frantically blowing his whistle and pointing at a car. When the driver realized he was the target he pulled to the curb and stopped. The Policeman gave him a ticket for some violation.

It don't work that way in America,,,, sadly.....

 

[Jstpssng]

Shall we get ready for the Corona Virus #6? [b/]

On another note, why I keep seeing in the news the Americans just rushing to buy weapons and ammo? Are they expecting to shot the virus or what?

After reading the three pages after your comment I may start it now and leave this one to the bickerers.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I hadn't noticed the 'eight weeks' before. This gives us some idea what to expect.

"Governor Newsom wrote. "In some parts of California, our case rate is doubling every four days. we have community acquired transmission in 23 counties with an increase of 44 community acquired infections in 24 hours. We project that roughly 56 percent of our population 25.5 million people will be infected with the virus over an eight week period."

From what I have learned in the past 12 hours I expect CA and NY are just two canaries in the coal mine. It is like someone walking with rake full of burning grass through tall dry grass with 40 MPH winds blowing. I am feeling fine but it has not even been 24 hours since my first known risk that I learned about 3 hours ago.

TN is one of those "God is in control so let come what may" states that is running full speed ahead. Nashville visitor not only was in a 150 person church service before testing positive but also was the current link to an active hospital employee that now has tested positive. My potential exposure came through the visitor last Sunday. My wife exposure risk came through a person that was a secondary infection form the Nashville visitor and we are only day 5 from the 150 person last Sunday. Most likely the visitor was in town before last Sunday but this stuff has went world wide in just months like jumping from human was too slow to suit its taste.

Who knows what the first wave is going to look like but I expect the 3rd, 4th many shut down the system's ability to cope with the number of cases if many require hospital care.

Hopefully this will be over soon but that would be a total surprise at this point in time. If we had locked down last week instead of this week things might be more positive but at this point it is a wait and see event. Until my potential link to the virus tests positive I may be just fine. When it jumped from the primary host to the secondary (local) host one can better expect what is to come.

If a lock down last week had been honored by that churches leadership and the hospital had of had a no visitor policy last week like they started two days ago it might have been helpful but there is not concrete way to know what "could have been" and is a waste of time to now discuss locally but not for other areas.

Give the social distancing measures 3-4 weeks and see if that helps is my thought today. This stuff kills as we know so we need to respect it.

 

[Big Barn]

Moss. ^^^^THAT is my all time fave Don Adams saying.

You should post that over on the quotes and sayings thread!

 

[Molalla1]

From what I have learned in the past 12 hours I expect CA and NY are just two canaries in the coal mine. It is like someone walking with rake full of burning grass through tall dry grass with 40 MPH winds blowing. I am feeling fine but it has not even been 24 hours since my first known risk that I learned about 3 hours ago.

TN is one of those "God is in control so let come what may" states that is running full speed ahead. Nashville visitor not only was in a 150 person church service before testing positive but also was the current link to an active hospital employee that now has tested positive. My potential exposure came through the visitor last Sunday. My wife exposure risk came through an a person that was a secondary infection form the Nashville visitor and we are only day 5 from the 150 person last Sunday.

Who knows what the first wave is going to look like but I expect the 3rd, 4th many shut down the system's ability to cope with the number of cases if many require hospital care.

Hopefully this will be over soon but that would be a total surprise at this point in time. If we had locked down last week instead of this week things might be more positive but at this point it is a wait and see event. Until my potential link to the virus tests positive I may be just fine. When it jumped from the primary host to the secondary (local) host one can expect a little better.

If a lock down last week had been honored by that churches leadership and the hospital had of had a no visitor policy last week like they started two days ago I might have been helpful but there is not concrete way to know what "could have been".

Give the social distancing measures 3-4 weeks and see if that helps is my thought today. This stuff kills as we know so we need to respect it.

Gale I lived that way for over 2 years (late 60's early 70's) I have no problem staying away . . . and folks don't take that as political.

 

[5030]

From what I have learned in the past 12 hours I expect CA and NY are just two canaries in the coal mine. It is like someone walking with rake full of burning grass through tall dry grass with 40 MPH winds blowing. I am feeling fine but it has not even been 24 hours since my first known risk that I learned about 3 hours ago.

TN is one of those "God is in control so let come what may" states that is running full speed ahead. Nashville visitor not only was in a 150 person church service before testing positive but also was the current link to an active hospital employee that now has tested positive. My potential exposure came through the visitor last Sunday. My wife exposure risk came through an a person that was a secondary infection form the Nashville visitor and we are only day 5 from the 150 person last Sunday.

Who knows what the first wave is going to look like but I expect the 3rd, 4th many shut down the system's ability to cope with the number of cases if many require hospital care.

Hopefully this will be over soon but that would be a total surprise at this point in time. If we had locked down last week instead of this week things might be more positive but at this point it is a wait and see event. Until my potential link to the virus tests positive I may be just fine. When it jumped from the primary host to the secondary (local) host one can expect a little better.

If a lock down last week had been honored by that churches leadership and the hospital had of had a no visitor policy last week like they started two days ago I might have been helpful but there is not concrete way to know what "could have been".

Give the social distancing measures 3-4 weeks and see if that helps is my thought today. This stuff kills as we know so we need to respect it.

Like all the college kids on spring break in Florida on the beach....lol Ignorance and stupidity is bliss until you get bit. It appears to me that a large segment of people in this country have ZERO common sense but I'm confident they will pay, some with their lives.

 

[QueBota]

I don't understand the fixation with respirators. If you get covid19, at this point, a ventilator is not a magic bullet. ICU/critical care intervention does little to prevent a bad outcome (dead), At Best, 10% of those patients survive ICU/ventilation, can't find data on discharge rate for said patients.

If you end up in ICU/ventilated with covid19, prognosis not promising.
Q

 

[5030]

Gale I lived that way for over 2 years (late 60's early 70's) I have no problem staying away . . . and folks don't take that as political.

Covid 19 transcends all political, economic and cultural boundaries. It's not prejudiced at all and it cares little about age either (other than I understand the very young don't contract it, but can be positive carriers), but everyone else is in the pickle barrel right now.

 

[5030]

I don't understand the fixation with respirators. If you get covid19, at this point, a ventilator is not a magic bullet. ICU/critical care intervention does little to prevent a bad outcome (dead), at best, 10% of those patients survive, can t find data on discharge rate for said patients.

If you end up in ICU/ventilated, prognosis not promising.
Q

Buys time for a lingering death... Isn't that comforting.